Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Story & Character Discussion There must be more true friend companions in the game who support you no matter what

That's amazing. I'd probably feel the same if I hadn't met one Lae'zel and two Shadowhearts in real life - and it never ended well.

When it comes to the "I know" line, the nuance for me is in the tone of voice and facial expression that makes me interpret it as teasing rather than "get lost". Clearly it didn't for you, so that is unfortunate then in that case.


Yeah, I had a feeling that a topic on men-women relations could be an important factor in how you view the male characters compared to the female characters in BG3, which is why I asked out of curiosity. Totally fair to keep that to yourself, that would go way beyond the scope of your original thread topic as well I feel.


Glad to hear! At the end of the day, games are all about finding ways to enjoy them. Given that you've gone through multiple playthroughs going by you mentioning trying different romance paths, that's probably hundreds of hours of gaming for a single purchase, not bad!

Nah sorry, you misunderstood and have primed yourself to assume the worst. It was a joke as Taril said, as in she doesnt want to make it too serious and cheesy even though she likes the compliment, it breaks through awkwardness. Or you can see it as teasing and being playful, which is appropriate in flirting stage of relationship.

It's similar to this from Star Wars:


Also modding - this is just you making up your own headcanon to cope rather than truly engaging with the material. You should be more secure dealing with female characters and be playful back at them. Such modding is a lie.

Your whole take is built on a false premise, so I'm not even gonna bother. Just tell me - where do you see a joke, here's the video: https://shorturl.at/owgkB She sounds like a spoiled streamer who gets spammed with those comments daily. If that's a "joke" then describe what a non-joke would look like in this context.

But he butters you up pretty good.


I know, (Sorry! XD) that's why I was initially not interested in it at all. I looked into it because some mates of mine started playing it and what I found (on yt but also some interviews with the devs) mostly highlighted how the game encourages creative problem solving. Of course I might have had a peculiar algorithm working for me, but I did get the impression that they were aiming for a wider audience than just CRPG fans in mind.


Where did "terse and to the point" come from?

But I feel the conversation gotten a little lost, I am not sure what the context of the scene with Morrigan is, it reminds me of the scene when Astarion needles you after you spend time with Lae'zel (flopping about like dead fish) which stands in the context of his simple plan, and shows you just how an obnoxious a gossip he can be. It makes sense for him to butt in here but it would feel very weird to me if every companion wanted to chat about my character's relationship. I am also fine with Wither's dialogue for commenting on your relationship, it's basically a joke on the discomfort of someone being nosy about your romance, it doesn't need extra treatment, getting personalised responses to it is enough in my opinion. I rather have the personalised dialogue in situations that matter.

With generic I meant that "oh that oaf makes you happy, he must be good in bed" is an extremely cliché insult, but you are right, that might just be in character for her, but it's hard to imagine someone is looking forward to this conversation. But I also don't have emotional attachment to it, for me it's just a snippet of dialogue.

Honestly maybe you should ask AI what it thinks of that line. I literally show you scenes from a movie that is similar reply in a joking manner, and neither character is misunderstanding. What you would have preferred i guess is the generic "I love you too" or "You are also beautiful Sir Tav!" (that's a non-joke). That would just be boring. Your take is unpopular for a reason that people here probably see for the first time, so why are you acting like its an obvious interpretation? No she does not sound like how you describe it, nobody thinks this. She even says "youre sweet" right after, so she appreciates it. Like how do you not see that she hides her true feelings? Not sure what youre expecting. Shadowheart is a slowburn romance - the best kind.

Your fixation on "Efficiency", your stance of being against "More dialogue" and wanting there to be "Purpose" to all dialogue.

I.e. Terse and to the point. Little to no waffling for the sake of waffling. Nothing that is there simply because people like to talk about things. Nothing "Extra" that helps push characterization. Just everyone saying the bare minimum for what specific purposes they require.


IIRC the context is Morrigan being good friends with you and you deciding to pursue a romance with Alistair and then talking with Morrigan at camp. Whereby it's one of the new gossips that people will want to talk about because people like to gossip about such things.

As far as every companion commenting on such things... Part of that stems from how every companion becomes your BFF in video games. So everyone acts like your BFF, wherein a comment about you starting a relationship wouldn't be out of the ordinary. (One of the myriad of issues with current video game relationships, everyone being your bestest friend in the whole world)


It's less "Looking forward to this conversation" and more "It's a pleasant surprise to encounter it"

I mean, I don't "Look forward" to any conversations in any video game at all. Given the nature of dialogues they're only interesting the first time when you're obtaining new knowledge - Afterwards you already know what is going to be said and the overall outcomes of the conversation.

But it's nice to encounter things that help flesh out the world and characters. Stuff like the banter that BG3 companions have as you wander around. Is it deep and meaningful? No. But it provides additional information about the characters and especially how they view other companions (Which is even nicer given the rarity of any inter-companion interactions in video games)

So I'm not sat here thinking "Gosh, I wish my companions would talk about my romance choice!", but rather I'm pleasantly surprised when my choices in games (Not necessarily romance options) are brought up by companions and shape their views and opinions. As it provides more depth to not only the companions themselves, but also to decisions I make.

Even more so if I care enough to have my decisions swayed by the impact they can have on companions, an extreme example being the reasonably common "Do you become a Lich?" option, where picking yes grants you a ton of power to your character but the cost is most companions really don't like that (And will often leave you or be killed in the ritual of you becoming a Lich)