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I once read a book by a person named Heinrich Harrer about his time in Tibet.

The first pages I read, I felt such an intense feeling of hatred within the lines that I couldn't stand it anymore. I put the book away and have sworn to never touch it again.

Years later I learned that he was a Nazi.


A few days ago I learned of a person who had the exact(ly) same experience.

if you fall in your sleep and hit the bottom from a great height you will or should die.
When you fall and wake up thinking you actually did fall or you are bouncing as if it happened,it means you're having an out-of-body-experience.It's sort of between sleeping and a coma.
Has anyone seen the film Dragonfly? It's quite freaky

Catty <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Aye 'Seven Years in Tibet' - was also made into a film with Brad Pitt. I've not ready any passasges from the book though.

"One night I looked upon my stair,
And saw a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today;
I wish, I wish he'd go away."

This is not a true story from what I know, but it is an interesting poem that may relate to some people and their personal events. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

I know someone who, upon taking off his glasses at night to go to bed, sees an old woman sitting on it. An illusion more than optical? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

Killerzzz

I don't think you'll sense it, because it might have been distorted by the process of translation.

There is a book named - "Tibetan book of the Dead". Book that describes after-life and after-death in every little detail. Book with step by step instructions of what to do in and after death, it also gives clues how to avoid death. It also describes how to help the one who dies and goes through different after-death levels.

I think I even found it in internet. Hope it's the one I read many years ago.
Read for your own pleasure.



I have an explanation that, falling in your sleep is a memory. Very distant (genetical) memory that was recorded, and lived through by your grand-grand-grand-andmanymore-grand-father or mother. He or she was actually falling. And something happend that saved his/her life. So, they remembered it.

Why you fall and never hit the bottom? Those who hit the botton are dead and can't pass their memory to their kids. Thats it. I dont think you can die even if you hit the bottom in your dream. You survive, as your grand survived in their real life fall.

By the way, do you want to control your dreams? Ok, first, and the most difficult step, sounds very easy to do:

Find your hands in your dream. Just look at them.

That simple. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> If anyone EVER succeeds, let me know <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

if you day dream before you sleep you dream about what happened in your day dream.

Catty

Other ways to conquer dreams is to know that you are in a dream. Believe it or not, that is sometimes very hard to do. When dreaming, you are put into a situation that seems real to you, even though its very not.

To identify if you are in a dream, one thing that will give it away is a sudden inability to activate lights, or a sudden foggyness in your vision. A big scary monster is a nice give-away too, but by then your more worried about the monster than wether its a dream or not <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />.

For me, to exit a dream (once and if I've indentified it) is to shut my eyes tight (and I mean hard, like 'till it hurts) and then open them with extreem suddenness that should flip you out of the dream (though occationnally I get flipped into another, worst dream...)

Also, if you know you are in a nightmare, and you can't get out, then always keep an eye on someone you are with and trust (if you are lucky enough to be in that situation). Separation is a one way ticket to danger.

Killerzzz

@ Egin -> funny u mentioned about that when i read something similar to it in Ghost In The Shell: Man-Machine Interface (MMI) manga (which is comic).

the character in the manga disconnected her hands (her body being fully cybernetic) & logged into the 'net. if she could 'sense' her hand then she knows that she is still online. this is to prevent her from being unable to disconnect or disengage from virtual reality environment.

& as for trying to wake up from dream, what i usually do is force myself to shake so much (prayers help too) that i wake up from sleep. first is to shake the head then the body. not easy to do as u may not know if u're shaking your real body or dream body. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

I've known I was in a dream once and stayed in. It was cool, cuz it was a nightmare and then suddenly I didn't care anymore what happened, and I could do anything I wanted. IIRC I took a rocket launcher and shot it at some monster or something :P I was like 10 or something then, can't remember clearely.

Last night I had the worst dream in my life ever though.

What was it? Often dreams are an outlet so you can stress less in real life.

That's the main thing.
There are two different areas - comciousness and unconciousness. There is a little to no link between them.

That's why it is nearly impossible to look at the hands in the dream. Regardless of how hard you try telling yourself to do that, after you fall a sleep your mind shuts down.

When awoke we are concious, we use reason and logical thinking.

When we dream we are unconcious, this world is not working under the rules of reason and logics. Will dominates here.

Only if you have enough will then u can realize you are dreaming and then you can really do something to avoid situations you get in your dreams. Has anyone experienced dream when some bad things happening and you just stand still paralized unable to move or even think.

It is extremely difficult imo to realize in dream that you are dreaming. If you can do that then, provided your will is strong enough, you can change dreams.
Lews made a brilliant example:



You don't care because you are free to do what you want to do plus events can not affect you anymore.

janggut, I think I mentioned the same things when we talked about first Matrix (the movie), because this is exactly what dreaming with strong will is.
And the Matrix starts with finding hands in the dreams <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Sorry, it may sound tricky or freaky. And my english restricting me from speaking more freely about these things.

You wouldn't believe that my dream last night was bad, but it was horrible. You might not think its bad at all, but to me, for some odd reason it is stuck in my head and scaring the hell out of me. I'll explain if I see you on MSN or something.




Yeah, I've had 2 dreams where I realized it was a dream. One I was swimming across a lake, and these serpents were killing my friends. I realized 'wait, I am in bed, this is a dream.' Then suddenly I was like on an island and blew them all up. It was fun =)

The other time, I was in a room somewhere, with all these shadows about to kill me. Then I started riverdancing. Yep. Riverdancing. THey couldn't touch me then, so I realized 'this is so [nocando] up it must be a dream.' And I basically just started spinning through the air till I woke up.


Yes, my dreams are odd.

no prob, Egin. i understand u well. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

[color:"pink"] Has anyone experienced dream when some bad things happening and you just stand still paralized unable to move or even think. [/color] Egin

good & bad. i won't say paralysed or unable to think. it's more like playback or shuffling of memory which can be very confusing or doesn't make sense. most of my dreams are like that. maybe my mind is defragmenting while i sleep. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> & got stuck somewhere as i have some bad sectors. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

Lews, in mexican art of witchery, when hostile spirits attack you, you dance and sometimes sing.

Every bruho (the one with the art) has it's own special "dance" and/or "song" you can only get it from your "protector" - friendly spirit.

This dance / song is used only in fatal danger, and yes, it may sometimes look like riverdance.

So, does it explain your dreams a bit? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Find your hands Lews.

Wow, I have 2 freaky stories that happened in my family. And we are going way too personal here but ok, here comes the first.

I was 6-7 y.o. Once, at absolutely ordinary evening I told my mother. Mom, I wanna light a candle. She was surprised and asked what for, but I couldn't explain. I just wanted to do this. (another irrational thing was that she refused) She didn't want me to do that. I insisted. Than I started to cry still asking to light the candle.

Finally my parents put me in bed. In a couple of hours they decided to check if i sleep well, and guess what I was doin? I was siting under my bed and looking at the candle. Noone knows where have i got a candle and matches from (we don't have a tradition to keep such things in kids rooms, but that's not a main concern, I probably stole that candle and matches from the cellar).

Next day a telegram came. My grandfother died (my mother's dad). The terrible thing was - he died absolutely alone (yeah that time when i wanted to light a candle) in his house and noone lighted the candle to escort his soul into heaven.
Well, now we know, that there was one person who did it. Another small detail - he died in Moldova - it's approx 3500km away from my homeland - Estonia.

[color:"pink"] When you fall and wake up thinking you actually did fall or you are bouncing as if it happened,it means you're having an out-of-body-experience.It's sort of between sleeping and a coma. [/color] Catty

what about getting caught up in some kind of action in a dream; running, panic, climbing, exertion of force (trying to move forward)?

i had some kind of dream where i can see very violent storm just outside my window as i was lying on the bed & i can feel the house being hit by the very strong wind. felt like the house was shaken. i woke up in a panic & looked out the window only to see a very quiet & calm night sky.

maybe it's just anxiety for me. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

@ Egin -> indeed very freaky.

@ Lews -> makes sense that dreams don't make sense. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

@ HEF -> but for me the weird dreams made me even more stressful. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" />

http://www.huna.org/html/thedream.html

Know what one of the worst type of nightmares are <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" /> They are very rare: When you are completely concious of the fact that you are dreaming, yet you can't escape or gain control. Then, things start seeming real because the base caracteristics of dreams are left behind, and you are living in an unconcious near-reality. Realistic things start happening, you have control of your thoughts, there is no fog of reality, and yet there is unnatural things that happen. You don't know what to believe in. You ask yourself: Am I dreaming this time? I think I've had this happen to me once, and it was like being calaustrophobic and in a box.

Killerzzz

Eh, sounds kinda weird to me. LOL. Fits with the dream though, which is kinda weird too.