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#311760 14/07/05 07:29 AM
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Seriously, orc drummers have to be the worst thing I have ever seen in any video game ever created. And I'm including Daikatana, here.

What idiot designer thought it would be funny to make a monster that is impossible to kill unless you can one-shot it, give it the ability to fully heal all the monsters around it, and put it right outside the starting town?

So is there some trick to these guys that I'm missing, or has Larian Studios just never heard of game balance? Am I not supposed to be in these woods yet? It's not like I have anywhere else to go; I've done everything in the healer town.

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After clearing the Aleroth catacombs I was strong enough that the orc drummer could not hurt me, but I could not do damage fast enough to kill it. I simply left it, and came back later when I was stronger and had better equipment (actually I forgot about him, and simply ran across him again while I was doing something else).

Concentrate on the other orcs, and maybe run away to draw them after you and away from the drummer's help temporarily.

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Sorry, I followed a Google link to this forum and didn't see the heirarchy. Can a moderator move it to the correct place?

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Umm... apparently, yes. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" /> (and quite fast)

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I used a frost weapon to kill the orc drummers. when they are frozen, they cannot heal themselves or anyone else for that matter.


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Where did you find a frost weapon?

I haven't been able to find any yet, and I just started to do my Versitsis quests.

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item stats are random. so if you haven't found one yet, just keep looking. you might find one and you might not. other wise you could use the frost skill. pretty much does the same thing.


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In Divine Divinity the stats of the items are random.

If you want a good sword with the frost skill, try to get one of the following swords.
First make a savegame, have a look at the stats of the sword.
If the sword does not have the frost skill then reload and try again.

The better swords are these ones :
The [nocando]Sword : Near Stormfist Castle (dropped by a rude knight)
Blade of Chaos 2 handed sword : In a cave at the west of Glenborus, the dwarven village
Brightblade : Near Aleroth (dropped by Lord Seth if you kill him)
Cutlass of Totu Chabahl : Thieves’ Guild (in a locked chest)
Nobleman’s Sword 1 handed sword : In the Holy Weapons Crypt
Random Claymore 2 handed sword : In a lich cave near Rivertown
Singing Blade 1 handed sword : In the Rivertown Sewers (dropped by Pedro)
Sword from the Stone 2 handed sword : In the Stone (Dark Forest)
Sword of the Gods 1 handed sword : In the Wastelands (in a house in the dead village)

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Barta,

Many thanks.

I am a 1h sword person so I will keep my eye open.

I think I got a couple of these already (definatly pedro's) but what I had was better at the time so I sold it off. And, even if it rocks, if it is 2h I won't use it. I want the defence / armor from the shield.

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The game uses the armour class of where you get hit in determining damage; the overall armour listed in the stats is just for your information. Not using a shield means a loss of some blocking and less equipment to have bonuses on, but doing damage faster can make up for that. Offense and defense are based on agility, as is your chance to hit and be hit (see differences between classes - minor spoilers).

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the way to kill orc drummer was very easy just put poison in your weapon (thief skill) then hit it 3 times or more the it will kill him slowly even he heal he would die for sure! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />

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When I couldn't beat the Orc Drummers, I just marked their locations on my map, then came back to them later when I could kill them in just, like, 3 shots. Hehehe. Heal that punks! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" />

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At the beginning of the game when I tried to kills those burgers, I lured them back up to soldier (I forgot his name) who was guarding the gate to Aleroth and let him kill them all. I cleared out that entire section by doing that. E-

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At the beginning of the game when I tried to kills those burgers, I lured them back up to soldier (I forgot his name) who was guarding the gate to Aleroth and let him kill them all. I cleared out that entire section by doing that. E-


There's a big downer to that particular strategy: you don't get the experiance!
You're missing out that way. Make sure you try to kill all you can on your own even if it doesn't seem worth a small amount of experiance (for certain bad guys). Because, a bunch of littles = alot. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

A little closer to the main subject... if they make another patch, may the drummers be reduced somehow (like the frequency of the use of their healing).

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yeh killerzz is right you'll wont get enought experience to easyly kill the monster in the future..
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all ican say about the person who first posted that wardrummer sucks is his just an unexperience guy at playing even u used fro\st or poison u can kill the drummer so easyly..but i still havent try the warrior yet <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" />

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wait till you see an orc warlord <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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lol, orcwarlords are as easy to kill like an ordinary orc just use poison weapon on a bow when ur using a survivor and even frosthim then us lightning if ur a mage but still i havent tried to use a warrior yet.. dont use healing potion and magic but combine them so you can make restoration ull see it was a very big help.. and also use as many as you cancause they're cheap.. you dont even have to loot a lot just choose the weapon that has level of 4 or 5, where you can sell it high..gold is cheap and use it jst for buying orb that you needed..
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They will not heal themselves if you are actively attacking them. However, there are some that have more health than others and do more damage. So, you might not be able to last head to head for very long.

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Even if you keep hitting orc drummers, they will still usually heal every now and then, you just gotta pray that you're lucky and they don't =P
Orc Warlords are dead easy, they do crap damage and have crap armour compared to their image.
Gotta love frost and poison weaps btw <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

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