Oh I totally agree the 7800 series leave the 68 for dead, but I didn't think you where asking about that, just what you thought our opinion was of the 68 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> but if you can afford it go for the 7800 gtx so far ppl are wanting to use that over an Intel Cpu to run servers and that saying something! but if you think about the fact that a Gpu has 24 pipelines that work bi-directional as opposed to a Cpu which actually has to wait for all the info to be sent from a to b before it can return from b to a, well then it all makes sense <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />