I like RPGs like this and the act of wavering over which skills to take, how to level up, etc. However, on this decision, I did a 180 and ended up beefing up Mace, Shield, and Stun. I then ended up findidng some great socketable items. I will have to come back for the Orc Drummers, however, when I can kick their asses mano y mano - no magic involved!! Thanks for your help again , Raze. Where would this board be without you?