Larian Studios Forums Divinity 2 - Ego Draconis (English) Help/Tips/Tricks Goblin Hearts - Collecting them is so frustrating!

Being on holiday in Koln these days, one of my german friends allowed me to experience this game on his computer, and from the very beginning and up until now, when my char is almost lvl 12, there is just one thing about this game i don't find to be fair. I have spent at least 2 days carefully hunting the goblins in the first area of the Broken Valley, doing quicksaves and quickloads with each goblin i kill, simply because i am trying to gather just their hearts and nothing else...[sigh!] Why on earth aren't goblin hearts a common drop with 100% droprate ? Bringing a set of 10 hearts alone to Richard of Aleroth guarantees 1500 xp at minimum, and I have just seen how much a player needs as much xp as possible at the beginning, in order to survive the rest of Broken Valley after the encounter with the dying Lady Talana. And what's worse, the black goblins around the Citadel Tower seem to have a lower drop rate for the hearts than the first low level goblins found at the beginning. Please, you really must improve the droprate for goblin hearts when u will release the game in the English Language, or at least in the next patch for the game's German version.

Dude you need to use spoiler tags and improve on paragraph writing skills (it's why I avoided replying until in a good mood).

I don't think hearts were meant to be frequent drops like you'd like. Though you can save/load until you get one off each goblin. This game wasn't designed to be easy Larian staff keep stressing that. That extra xp your trying to get will turn into a waste as each time you level up, the monsters give less xp.

Maybe it was not designed to be easy but a quest like this really should have 100% droprate because everything else is dumb (every living goblin needs a heart so he should drop one) it just doesn't make sense.

And as you have already mentioned it wouldnt change much in case of difficulty it just wouldnt piss you off as much as it does with this random droprate

There is another way to solve this quest, though...

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yeah, you can kick richards ass but it is still stupid to have goblins without hearts...

Or maybe u wasnt able to remove those hearts properly? They were destroyed while fighting or flying aournd insects kidnaped it?

Then there should be a skill check to dexterity or an skill to earn hearts properly (or fur or whatever maybe a hunting skill or something like that) or at least a fucking text box that tells you why the heart has been destroyed. But as you cant dismember anything or crush the bodies to pieces there is no logical reason for not dropping a heart.

Richard won't take hearts from goblins that are heavy smokers and drinkers. Half of them smoke about 2 packs a day and/or drink one or three six packs of beer. Then there is about 25% of them that are just cold HEARTLESS savages that want to eat your liver! The last 25% have hearts and you obtain them provided an arrow doesn't go threw 'em, they are not fried by a spell or you don't stab your sword threw them while you murder the goblin.

If you don't believe that BS (I sure as hell don't) then maybe your character isn't successful at tearing corpses apart and he screws up a lot. After all who needs surgeons in a world where you just give everyone that has a crushed skull, arrow sticking out their chest or broken leg a healing potion and they are all better.

Come on for God sake... use your imagination! Don't take things so stinking literal, it is a game for crying out loud lol.

There is huge difference: There are rules in this fantasy world which say that a potion can heal you and which herbs create a potion like this and so on. So thats explained.

But i haven't found a rule which says: There are goblins who don't need hearts.

get it?

In a good fantasy world things like this would be explained by rules or something and not just happen for no logical reason.

I brought him like 5 hearts, saw that he was giving me a whopping 10 gold each, and never talked to him again. I best the game just fine

Wow your really upset about this...

If goblin hearts were a 100% drop, it would be too much xp and be unbalanced. The heart quest would have a limited amount that Richard would purchase. This way there are no limits set and the game keeps its randomness. This is the logic that is being used. The quest wasn't meant to be manipulated like you are doing to get extra xp. Larian invited testers for months that went over this part of the quest, this would be too obvious of a bug or found as a flawed intention for it to make it this far. I'm confident this is their logic in the heart drops.

Your wasting time saving and loading for heart drops as I said before, as you level up on goblin hearts, monsters that should give good xp won't because when you level up, they give less xp. Your basically spinning your wheels in the mud xp wise. Around level 16 I found a few goblins that I missed, they gave 0 xp when killed. Rabbits and ducks seem to be the exception of this rule, their rate doesn't seem to ever reduce. Whopping 1 xp per bunny...

Here are a few more questions for you to ponder.
Why don't all monsters drop body parts for your pet?
Why don't we get staves from the mage goblins?
Why don't we get two swords from each that duel weild swords?
Why don't we get a sword, shield, and plate armor, from all the armored skeletons?

Answer:
I played a RPG before Divinity 1 came out that was great. Every monster dropped their armor and the body remained on the ground for the entire game. Like Divinity 2, once something died it remained dead. After a while it got annoying to run back and forth selling off the weapons so you can buy the high priced good armor and weapons. Here you have far less of an encumbrance issue and the prices are not too high.

There is a reason why things are made this way. Get it?

Id didn't say it is the only stupid thing. I play RPG since almost 20 years now and yeah i'm also quite pissed about things like Diablo II where a moscito swarm drops a plate armor.

There are RPGs out there where you get exactly what the enemy was wearing that's how it should be done.

And for your information i haven't loaded goblins again to get hearts (i even didnt read richards mind) i just killed him when he tried to get the food and i already finished the game.

But still it's rather stupid like things are handled in this fantasy world. Imaganing doing stuff like this in a Pen & Paper.. you won't master long if you do stuff like this.

ROFL! the quest isn't even intended to make you collect hearts...you should read his mind and you will learn that he is BS-ing you, and that he will sell those hearts in aleroth for 10 times the price he gives you....then you can decide to kill the bastard

You actually do whatever he says? This is the beauty of DIVINITY...you're not forced to do what NPC says and there are 2-3 ways of solving a quest...including killing the quest giver...

As i told i killed him but after asking for something bigger not the first way. But you can also read his mind to get more money for the hearts.

But that doesn't change anything to the fact that goblings without hearts are stupid ;>

Anyway, does anyone know if this quest Hearttaker can be completed? I don't know how many hearts I've brought Richard, but quite a number. During my first playthrough I

now I'd like to find a way to complete the quest.

Excuse me for interrupting but, LOL.

O, you sadly man ... I brought Richard 10 goblin hearts and he give me 50 goldcooints for each haert (I was Level 6 on that time)! Lucky I'm ! And also: I haven't yet read Richards mind!

I follow a little bit this topic:
A real fantasy RPG world :why should it have any logical? In that case you can also say: some skills are pure fantasy at all when you use them ... That's the game!
I love fantasy so much and is THE reason I Love this beautiful RPG : fantasy everywhere!!
For this fantasy, for making , I will do much thanksgiving to Larian Studios!

Is there any way to complete this quest? I don't want to fail it, which means:


But the quest doesn't seem to finish either, I've given him every goblin heart I could find!