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I had to start an entirely new game because by the time I realized I'd left a main ingredient to the Hall of Echoes poor broken valley was full of poisen. Aren't you supposed to get the sigil before that happens?

I've killed the black ring knights at the quarry and inside the building, spoken to the commander who gave me a key. "Somewhat east of the quarry" Great. I looked everywhere, finally went back to just outside the little town to try the 'secret passage' again. I still don't get it. There is almost nothing on the map to the east of the quarry.

Twice I've started threads when I get completely fed up. This game is extremely frustrating. The last two times just as I posted the answer arrived. I hope something gives.


I finished the temple of doom or whatever it's called. The only thing I haven't done in broken valley besides the sigil is given Lord Lovis his stone back.

Can't find any door.

thank you very much.

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Lovis has his stone.

I'm really stuck. Please have mercy on my soul.



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The Sigil is held by a demon buried in the quarry/mine (the same one that was closed off by explosives).

You CANNOT get it until after you have the Battle Tower and dragon form, so it is impossible to get before Broken Valley is destroyed. You need to fly to the southern-most southwestern corner of the valley. In one of those Black Ring walled-in encampments, you'll find a locked door on the side of the mountain. Go in through there and it should be straightforward enough. Make sure to mindread the demon before the battle, as he gives 2 skill points.

Even though you can do the guild leader rescue before the Battle Tower, the mine is simply inaccessable, and even if by some miracle you get there (like via the floating glitch), I can't imagine you could beat him, seeing as its Lv30.

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Thank God!! That means I still have my original game intact!!

I just couldn't figure out what I'd missed.. Thank Thank you.



In the new game I'm just about to finish the battle tower, and in the older I've gotten most of the way through the fjords.

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If I remember correctly, the mine is marked on your map by a scroll icon, like is usually used to mark story-important locations. It's in a position that makes it difficult to see if you're not looking for it, though.

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In dragon form, the Black Ring camp around the mine entrance is easily visible from the quarry tower, and is only a couple seconds flight to the south east (in the direction of one of the walls coming off the tower). The door leading into the mine is also easily visible once you get a little closer, framed in the mountainside by 3 large rocks.

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Maybe I should start a new thread but how the heck did you kill the black ring in the building after talking to the commander and getting the key. I too wanted to get this before I build my battle tower. I am level 19 I have maxed out on poison arrow, whirlwind, fireball, ghost, I have a pet and I am on easy and they are way too tough for me.

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I managed to take out the 4 rangers that come upstairs, but had to leave through one of the side doors to avoid the 3 warriors downstairs. There is no need to get the key early, though, and as far as the experience bonus, you get the same amount 3 or more levels below your opponent. With level 28 opponents, for example, taking them out at level 25 or below would give the same experience.

xp points per level list? spoilers possible

For my strategy, I just summoned my creature (mage head), did a bit of damage with a bow if I had enough cover or they were mostly focused on my creature, Rush Attacked to do damage (duel wielding warrior) and withdrew back upstairs when I needed to heal (potions and/or level 1 of the spell). If only one ranger came after me upstairs I would be ok; 2 alone were a little too much to handle in a confined space, so I would jump over the railing and Rush Attack someone downstairs, until I needed to break away to heal. Once you take out the first one, it gets easier, especially if your creature can keep the attention of 2 that are left for awhile.
With the 3 warriors downstairs, they Rush Attacked too much to be able to handle at my level, given the time it took to heal and recover if I was stunned.

On normal difficulty I was level 16 or 17 when I took out the first 2 Black Ring warriors, but couldn't handle the rangers upstairs. When I tried again about level 21 or 22, the rangers were not too bad, but I had to skip the warriors. After getting the battle tower I left the return to Broken Valley fairly late, so had no trouble taking them out in the early thirties for level.

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Thank you. I guess I will postpone this despite the warning to finish your business in the valley before going any further. I have gotten as far as a shrine in the Ordos Fjord so i will be able to go there without going thru the valley. Time to continue the main quest in the tower.

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There are 2 exceptions to the warning: this quest can be done after getting the battle tower (you can only do part of it early, anyway), as can one of the quests on Sentinel Island, that you need to be able to transform into a dragon to do (though in that case you are given a hint that it can wait in one of the dialogs).

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Thanks again. It seems like an error in game design to me. There should be a cheat or an easier setting so that you can do this part of the quest. Unlike most players I don't like it hard though. I just want to kill and win. Especially the first time through. It is challenging enough just learning the story line and where things are and what quests are available. But then I am 58 and the reflexes aren't as good as they used to be. Maybe when I was younger I liked things better then they were difficult; not now.

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There is a warning the first time you approach the mine, and with the opponent level so much higher than your character level, I think it was suppose to be obvious that it was meant to be done later.


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