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I have a problem...I'm at level 21 and I have qompeleted Maxos temle quest and the sentinel Island quest of choosing the 4 guys of different expertise to help me....and that is where I stopped...I don't know what next, or where to go....it said when I finished the quest that I have to defeat Larian, or in some words to evict the current tenant...help please

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Originally Posted by choopawy
...defeat Larian...
That was too funny to pass up, sorry laugh
But seriously now, I think you're missing the big one. See what you can do with the tombstone with the 3 candles.


I'd like to close by quoting Bellegar's famous last rhyme:

"Cursed be the mother that bred thee!
The wench must have been a hell-spawned banshee!"
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huh man I haven't even noticed the answer and now I'm at the "reaping the seeds"....worked it up myself but than again I'm stuck here....no way to pass the barrier aka the force field...I got the advice to go to a teleport and it will like move me to some entrance....but the teleport is not showing the possibility of moving anywhere else than my tower and one more place in sentinel island...stuck help please laugh

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is it possible that there is a bug or something like that? I completed 2 out of 3 tasks in reaping the seeds but the first tree is not answering and it is not available to speak with...I can walk through it...so it surely a bug

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@Choopawy - it the first tree the one closest to the waterfall? I had the same bug - collision detection suddenly stopped and I could walk through the tree.

I simply saved and reloaded the game, everything was fine again after that. I had a number of other collision based bugs appearing (before patch 1), and saving/loading always fixed them.

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I am starting to be a bit of a pain in the ass but is it possible to undo skill points and relocate them to another skill?if possible than how?

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Yes it is possible to undo your skillpoints, but not untill
you have conquered the battle tower

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Originally Posted by choopawy
...now I'm at the "reaping the seeds"...
You cannot advance "Reaping the Seeds" unless you can fly. That means you must have taken control of the Tower, which means you've gone beyond the barrier. You never answered my comment on the tombstone with the 3 candles. That's your key!


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thanks but I did more playing than reading comments laugh...am stuck again cause I can't seem to find the entrance to hall of echoes...I completed the task of protecting that wizard in came to no harm quest and got the seal but just can't seem to find it....have I missed anything?

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There are 4 quests needed to enter the Hall of Echoes. You should finish off everything else before heading there, though. The entrance, if you've spoken to Patriarch and got him to create it, is far below one of the talking trees in the fjords, across the channel from the Red Hammer tribe area, at the back of an area with dragon skeletons around.

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what are those 4 quests and no I haven't spoken to the Patriarch and couldn't find out the way to shut down those barriers at the zeppelin port where the champions are...

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well I don't know how to do it anyway and I have conquered the battle tower...help

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Originally Posted by choopawy
what are those 4 quests and no I haven't spoken to the Patriarch and couldn't find out the way to shut down those barriers at the zeppelin port where the champions are...

You can't. "It's no good, I'll have to walk" as my character says. Or swim, depending; but the barriers around the fort are permanent.


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where do I find that Patriarch? kinda stuck

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There is no rush to get to the Hall of Echoes; you'll want to do every thing else in the fjords, Broken Valley and Sentinel Island first.
The 4 quests are Revelation (find the Note from Maxos in the battle tower bedroom), X marks the Spot (talk to Patriarch), Lock and Key (Broken Valley mine), Come to No Harm (help Zandalor in Aleroth).

Patriarch can be found in the cave under the waterfall at the start of the fjords (at the bottom of the mountain cave where Talana will not shut up about sensing a powerful presence). You need to complete the seeds quest to get access to Patriarch.

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hmmm ok thanks but I have completed the seeds quest and all of the rest except talking to the patriarch but that is because in the cave you talk about I'm kind of stuck, cannot pass the barrier and the switch is broken....

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You need to find the lever for the switch in a nearby chest.

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found the lever a while ago when first came to the cave....but nothing happens.....

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if you are on the seeds quest did you talk to each of the statues after obtaining seeds? are you past that point?


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In the small maze section, with the chest containing the lever, there is a place to put it in a rock at the end of the maze (towards the barrier). IIRC it is the rock fireballs are being shot at.

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