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Hm, tbh I don't like the idea of another forum. There should be ONE place to talk about D:OS (and DC) and not two or three. I would be very happy to see a modding subforum for D:OS HERE but I won't support an external (and unofficial) forum, sorry StromIV.

I fear that an external forum would even split the rather small (core) community and that's not what I want so see.


I believe it won't split it up. It's great that it's a temporary fix until larian announce an official site for early brainstroming.


A forum is never temporary. People will start discussions there and you would have to transfer the whole stuff from there to a new official subforum here once there is one which is way too much work and almost impossible to perform in the right way. So some people who already begun a discussion/project there would simply stay there....

We should just wait with modding projects etc for some days/weeks until an official solution is found. I think that Larian already knows that we want a solution for that and that they will set up something soon.


If the official site is created, I know people will migrate to the official site linking all the previous discussion from the other forum for continuity. People from the other site will continue the discussions to the official site. Of course, modders won't continue discussion on the other forum because they won't get the publicity they need. Everything being discussed there are just blueprints and only ideas. It's easy to consolidate (summarize) them if you're really passionate on what you're doing (modding) IMO.

@Strom you should just make the threads public without the mandatory register. With this, people could easily go to the referenced link without the need for additional procedure (register).

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The sooner the modding forum gets created the better. There's a few simple questions to ask; what reason is there to wait until closer to launch? How long will it take to setup? And will it have a detrimental effect on this community if you make a modding forum now?

The answers are none, 10 minutes, and no; if anything creating a modding forum now not only asserts Larian's belief in the modding community but also shows they're actively encouraging and supporting it, while preventing the splintering of the community to other sites where they're supporting modding discussions early on.

There's no reason they shouldn't create a modding forum, and "we'll wait until closer to launch" as an excuse seems utterly pointless. It takes 10 minutes, just do it now! smile

For comparison, the Star Citizen forums already have a modding category on their forums, with the release date for Star Citizen tentatively set at November 2014. It's one of the most popular discussion categories they have with over 5,000 posts in it.

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Originally Posted by Dark0ne
The sooner the modding forum gets created the better. .....


Totally agree!

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Nobody is against a soon-as-possible modding forum. But Larian has other priorities atm: getting all the KS data together, manage the surveys, work on the huge backload of things which has been postponed during the KS campaign and so on.... wink


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Honestly, it takes 5 minutes to add a new category. 10 if you want to put a category specific sticky post in it.

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Originally Posted by Dark0ne
Honestly, it takes 5 minutes to add a new category. 10 if you want to put a category specific sticky post in it.


Sure. But tbh nobody hinders you from opening a topic like "Ultima VII mod" in the normal D:OS subforum. Then the topic could easily be moved to a new modding subforum after it is created (at least much easier than transfer topics from external forums....)

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And then a 5 minute job becomes a lot longer from having to move lots of topics! But I digress, the point is made, there's absolutely no reason, work-load or not, to not do it ASAP smile

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I think people should understand that mod support will always come later after game released.
If say during Beta and people start to asking this and that editor/mod tweak or enhancement, even new tools, they won't do it for sure. Imagine you divert important human resource to do those have no direct impact of the main game itself.

A forum/sub group or wiki is needed and will be filled up when the tools are released( due to above reason, I don't think they will release editor before game release.) And I'm pretty sure if Larian is open about the file format, there are tons of people knows how to deal with authoring packages and/or hack the files, check the scripts, etc.

Let's say, Larian open a sub-group today, what are you gonna put in it then? There is no tools, no files from alpha/beta builds, game/engine mechanism isn't fully transparent yet. What you can do is speculate and run some wild ideas. Which all can be done by opening a new thread here.

My 2 cents.

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Originally Posted by PenguinTD
Let's say, Larian open a sub-group today, what are you gonna put in it then? There is no tools, no files from alpha/beta builds, game/engine mechanism isn't fully transparent yet. What you can do is speculate and run some wild ideas. Which all can be done by opening a new thread here.

That's not the purpose for now -- it's to organize, dream up stuff, plan ahead, connect with other soon-to-be-modders, sharing ideas and so on. The same reason why we have a "D:OS - General" forum, actually -- even though we don't have a game yet. wink

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There is a not so tiny bit difference though.
For D:OS, people already see alpha footage, they know what is done already, what they might wanna tweak, what could be added, discuss stretch goal implementation, all efforts are done to improve the main game and are in line with Larian's primary goal.

For mod group, yes, like I said you can still post like "Zombie mod thread"( these days every game has a freaking zombie mode). When that's done, if you know how to build assets, that would be cool. Or to write back story and dialogs, like every game pre-production did.

BUT, for Larian's interest, it would be best to keep players' attention to main game, right? It doesn't hurt to create a sub-group, I'm not against it. But to demand stuff you want "right naw!" is a bit too aggressive, consider they just went through a 30 days social media marathon. Be a bit patient okay?


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Bump @ Title.


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Originally Posted by PenguinTD


BUT, for Larian's interest[...], consider they just went through a 30 days social media marathon. Be a bit patient okay?



Couldn't have put it better meself, so very true! smile

Then again, how hard can it be to add a subforum here? Perhaps Larian have to approve of that action first.


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There's no need to bump a four-day old thread. No, the modding subforum hasn't appeared yet. It's not that urgent, not compared to the list of other things Larian has on their plate.

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