Between these people and the existing fanbase, there are people who can be convinced to move up to a higher tier for various rewards or to reach appealing stretch goals.
Again, for people not caring (and any middle ground until caring) an unfinished extra expensive version is really that convincing? This group of people that aren't completely uninterested but are not involved in the game neither, but at the same time are persuaded for a $75~90 alpha sounds oddly specific and somehow counter-intuitive.
And you avoided my point that having alpha access cheaper after a kickstarter devalues that as a reward, and would mean less people pledge
I didn't, i already pointed out the sales on the other rewards but apparently they didn't counted because "everyone knew" which is weird because...
And knowing in advance that some or all of the kickstarter rewards would be cheaper if they waited, everyone would still pledge?
Because that's your argument
-Would people pledge if everybody knew that you can get the rewards cheaper?
-Well, there is these rewards that are cheaper
-Oh but they don't count because everybody knows that you can get them cheaper
-But that's exactly...
-Alphas are different and if they are sold after for cheaper, everybody would know that you can get them cheaper, and that can't happen, i mean, would people pledge if everybody knew that you can get the rewards cheaper?
Is a circular reasoning.
But let's actually test it.
Outside of name the whatever, let's test the rewards from the original sin kickstarter
>The anthology and divine: Check for cheaper beyond any kind of protest, i hope
>Original sin and dragon commander: They are gonna be cheaper in a steam sale unless we can't have sales anymore because of backers, better stop sales all together to maintain the value of the rewards.
>Soundtrack, dev docs, map and artbook: Because apparently kickstarter is a store and not a place to support projects, we can discard any wish to support larian, so may as well get these in a torrent (hell, this apply to the games too, weird how even if you can get something for free there are still enough people willing to pay for things to make a business out of it)
Physical form? A printer or a cd burner
>The t-shirt, deck and the dice: kinda expensive for what they are, better deals on those sites that let you buy and personalize stuff
And we can argue if some of them really fit or not but a really good part of them does, so anybody pledge? No, nobody did
Does any product or service ever drop in price just because the company made back their initial investment, etc?
How is that relevant? we are not talking about a product
sell alpha/beta access for cheaper
That implied that they sold it before and kickstarter is not a sto...
Price implies selli...
I wrote my view before, condescension may not be a great debate tactic but ignoring a valid point because you didn't liked the tone is fallacious, attacking the format instead of the content is an invalid debate tactic
the developer can sell alpha/beta access for cheaper or give it away, and nobody that backed should be annoyed at all?
No, you are right, i saw this developer on twitter, giving away keys for his game, how dare him? After people brought his game on release day, he is treating all his fan as suckers, and there this steam summer sale, monsters, all of them, selling their games for cheap, worse than Stalin.
And please don't reply with "but they are games, everybody knows that you can get them cheaper and that's not the case with alphas" because then you are using "is not the common practices" as a argument about why it should be the common practice and is gonna be the same circle .
Oh and nice comment about all the people who pledged for the $5 tier "Ha, they paid for something worthless just to help larian out, lol, suckers" i didn't know that pledges below $10 didn't got the pretense of gratitude, good thing that i pledged more then.