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#468490 03/07/13 04:03 AM
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Im having trouble staying alive in the hall of echos and im a level 32 should i have came up with a different stradagy like getting to a higher lvl or stocking up on potions?....plz anyone who knows the best way to stay alive tell me i have only had this game a month and never completed the hall of echos i kept dying in my 1st play through now im on my 2nd play through bc i couldn't get past the first one and I deleted the save before i entered the hall of echos

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Level 32 is a little low, but it should still be possible to get through the Hall of Echoes.

Do you have anything left to do (flying fortresses to clear, etc)? You could reload a save before entering the Hall of Echoes and try to level.


What section are you having trouble with?

Have you lowered the difficulty, if you are not already playing on casual?

Are you summoning your creature for the human sections?

You can return to the battle tower from the dragon sections of the Hall of Echoes, but the only way out is to use the dragon stone, so you can not go anywhere else. You can make potions, get charms from the battle tower chest, get different dragon armour if you stashed any in the chest, upgrade enchantments, adjust your skills, etc.
NOTE: save in the Hall of Eches before trying this. Transforming to human and back to dragon should be automatic, but a couple people ran into a glitch where they didn't turn back into a dragon in the Hall of Echoes, and couldn't do so manually. That would probably be easy to fix with the Developer Mode, though, in the D2:DC version of the game.


The following are D2:ED topics, but are applicable to DKS / D2:DC as well.

Another..Hall of Echoes question - first section

I need help with a battle (Spoilers) Ygerna's memory

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Im having trouble when I get to ba'al to many memory eaters and i keep running out of mana an now it liaken i keep dying and idk i have the bes armoir on an he is shooting fire balls at me that kill me instantly is that normal? My strength is all the way up to 100 it can go anyfurther.....what is going on??

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No, that is not normal. There is a relatively rare bug where boss type opponents can have a fast, overpowered attack. If you are playing the Developer's Cut version of the game, the easiest solution would be to load the save in the Developer Mode version, bring up the cheat window (F11) and enable god mode until you get past that point.

Otherwise, lowering the difficulty level may help (it will reduce the damage done, hopefully enough it is no longer a one hit kill).

Do you have your creature active? If it (or a summon, if you know or have any jewellery with such spells) is in front of you, it may get targeted first, giving you time to attack (or use Hide in Shadows). It might help to drink an armour and/or healing potion, etc, just before the fight.


One person with D2:ED who ran into this problem used CheatEngine to fix their health until they got past Ba'al.

Where's the trick to Ba'al?

[Not Sure if Bug][Spoilers]Killed Instantly




Are you playing a warrior build? Other than summoning your creature and maybe an occasional cast of the Healing spell, what are you doing to use mana? In the original release of D2:ED I never bothered with high mana special attacks like Thousand Strikes, but a couple levels of Mana Leech may help. I maxed Mana Efficiency (level 5 in D2:ED) and usually went with Increased Mana as my second choice on armour, after Life Line.
In DKS with my ranger I also boosted Mana Efficiency and used the Increased Mana enchantment, and there were few places I had trouble with mana that a couple potions could fix.

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It's on Xbox and i have no cheats and im summoning creatures and i think I figured out what is wrong m last play through my health was full an this time it's not at 100% its either that or im trying to take ou the creatures and i do have my creature and demon active but that's when I die liaken kills me right when I get done summoning my demon and creature and i can't take him out b i keep dying my ghost is no use b WHEN I IDE he heals me there's no time for him to heal me.....should I try to get to a higher level to upgrade my health all the way first....what is te best solution b i can always reload on this one to go level up if you suggest I should

The version or Xbox is the same for computer bc I've searched up a lot before i joined this networking and every answer i have found was for computer ad it was the same for xbox

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Yes, except for the UI and controls, the PC and Xbox versions are the same. I played the Xbox versions of D2:ED and DKS (I have a computer now that can run Divinity 2, so am planning another playthrough on PC eventually).


Do you have Hide in Shadows, or a spare skill point to try it? It can also show up as a bonus on jewellery.

If your creature is active, maybe if you move back before summoning your demon you'll have a little more time that you can afford to stand still.

Another level or two would likely help. There are a couple things you could check before you reload, though.

Did you max out your enchantments, etc? Make sure you have level 9 Increased Damage and Increased Magical Damage on weapons (both if possible; the first a priority for a warrior/ranger, the second for a mage), Armour should (IMO) have level 9 Life Line and then Increased Mana, and for jewellery I went with Static Charge and then Magic Damage Aura.
If you have any malachite gems, you can add some level 10 Healing Auras on jewellery. There are a few malachite veins in FoV and you can randomly get malachite gems as quest rewards (any quest that lists random gems); reloading at veins and FoV quests, I ended the game with 65 malachite gems (which was a waste of time, really; next game I'll either use more healing auras or not reload).

Do you have enough gold to unlearn your skills, or enough free skill points to try other approaches?

If you've used a bow as a backup when you are low on mana, you could have the Bow of Orobas. A close range Splitting Arrow can do quite a bit of damage, especially combined with Way of the Ranger.

What kind of build are you playing (stats / skills)?

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I have lvl 9 demon and lvl 10 ghost and undead and i have a creature and i use all my stat point for 1 of each stat ability and i have healing hide in shadows i belive and evade and two handed weapon and magic blast and i think that is it

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What class head is your creature using? A couple people playing mage/summoner type builds like the warrior head for its Fatality skill, but I found it was much more effective with a mage head (with my warrior and ranger characters), and it didn't move around as much, so could make a better shield (and didn't run off attracting the attention of more opponents in large areas).

Do you know Charm? That would fit with a summoner type playstyle, giving you an extra ally for a time. You don't get full experience from an opponent that you charm if it wears of any you (or your creature/summon) kill it, but that isn't an issue if you charm summoned opponents (they don't give experience anyway), and the extra help in combat more than makes up for possibly levelling a tiny bit slower.

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I have charm i just checked and i have a dragon elf head and arms bc i hae magic blast and magic missiles for my creature i think y creature does more damage with a dragon elf head and arms in my opinion and is it possible to undo all of your stat point bc i can do that if it is possible

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Unfortunately, you can not reset your stat points.
With my ranger playing on nightmare, I stopped distributing stat points after level 15, and at the end of the Hall of Echoes had 98 unused stat points (though I was also 5 levels higher that you, as well). Focusing on your main stats more would probably have helped a bit, but an even stat distribution certainly isn't a critical problem (others have successfully done that).

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How do I do that

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Do what? If you have no unused stat points, until you level again, the only way to adjust your stat point distribution is with different equipment, or by adding charms to equipment.
There are stat point bonuses in FoV from mindreads and a few areas where opponents can respawn, so if you can get through the Hall of Echoes you should be able to continue and focus on particular stats.

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I now i understand lol i misunderstood u the first time.....I just got passed the hall of echos to move on to flames if vengeance (finally after getting closed to bein killed a million of times)

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There are a few smallish catacombs / caves you can access near the start of FoV that have relatively high experience opponents that can respawn (leave, enter a different area, return to Aleroth and by the time you get back to the first area there should be opponents there again). You should also level relatively fast just by paying, so you shouldn't need to grind if you don't want to.


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