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Dear developers of Divinity, if you ever read this, I'm a girl gamer since I'm 8 (and now I'm 31, with a looong way of video games behind), and in my point of view there is no need to remove sexy armors because some people mistake this as "sexist" when it obviously only is something aesthetical. I like to play attractive females in game, because games are made to bring dream, not a boring so-called reality.

("So-called" because in History shows that less armor and mobility is way better in fight than heavy armor stuff. Ancient folks butt-kicked their adversary half-naked, and whiners should check about the battle of Agincourt...)

Thanks Larian Studios for thinking to keep some fun for the ones of us that aren't there to take things SO seriously and just have a fun and good-looking experience with your games.

A voice of reason?

On these forums?

Nonsense.

How it is possible to be heard through all this whining?

Here we go... ;-)

So long as there is a variety of armour styles to choose from, everyone wins.

I agree that there is no need to remove sexy armours, however there is a need to ensure sufficient modest armours. And yeah, people often conflate sexism when discussing the armour aesthetics issue, which does it a disservice because sexism in games is real and needs to be addressed - the confusion doesn't help.

Personally I tend to prefer a majority of more realistic gear & equipment to set the tone of the game, with some optional fantastical or sexy or whatever stuff. I'm just not a fan of huge spiky pauldrons and the like myself. I prefer my fantasy to be more grounded, however I do enjoy some fantastic and sexy armour sometimes. It depends on the game, my characters, weighing up armour stats (this armour looks better but this has better protection etc) and my mood.

Even in the alpha, there are 3 different styles of armour to choose from for both genders.

although I wholeheartedly agree with OP
https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets...ead7c5d31946171ffb7_large.jpg?1363018005 best armor to date..

PLEASE not another thread about this

I sympathise dwelf but if people want to express themselves about this then I think we should be tolerant. Surely a single thread is not so difficult to ignore? Besides, someone may come along who hasn't read/engaged with any such threads before, so it seems unfair to foreclose discussion.

I don't know why people make such a fuzz about it though. Its a fantasy game in fantasy cloth can be just as strong as plate, even the non covered parts can magically be protected. I don't need no realistic fantasy.
:p

Sorry I just overwhelmed by the stupidity on steam forums -.- not only about this just these COD and Diablo ***** that complain that devs are lazy for choosing more content instead of full camera rotation in an isometric game,or say nobody in the world still likes tb as it's archaic and what have you not..and the feminist/sexist thread just pushed me over the edge..

I care too much..it's a dissease really :')

I like the ranger armor for both of the genders. Tbh, I always like more clothing and/or more... stuff for armor. I'm not into plain looking armor, and definitely not into armor that doesn't cover the whole body (not even clothes for that matter).

I think sexy armor is ok as long as there are enough alternatives to let you play the role you chosen for your char

your female avatar can be wearing sexy tight leather "armor" if your aim is to distract male merchants while you lighten their purses or you can wear greyish brown patched robe if your femme fatale assassin wants to hit her mark and get out without drawing attention

I simply do not wish to be forced into practical armor only for men and sexy armor only for women. So long as that isn't a thing, I have nothing to object about.

That is why in another section I did request an option to not have high heels on the female character. I don't care if people want to sexualize the characters at the expense of practical sense. I just don't, and it's annoying for me if I'm forced to sexualize them in this way.

Regarding the OP's ideas about amount of armor, though... Breast slots and cleavage windows in female armor are the antithesis of survivability. There is no practical argument to be made. Any contact with that armor from the front would be directed at the center, right into the sternum. Good luck surviving that kind of abuse. That's why people like me object to it. It's not simply sexy; it's sexy and it is completely impractical to the point of killing its user more than helping.

Sexy armor isn't the problem for me. It's sexy and impractical armor that I do not want to be forced to wear, because I think it's silly and annoying to be forced into the traditional dichotomy of men wearing perfectly practical ornate plate armor and women wearing a literal breastplate and that's it. That dichotomy does come from a sexist origin, and it's not something to just hand-wave away like "oh, we're smarter than that now". We've also escaped racism and all kinds of other bigotry, right? /eye roll.

Edit: As a side note, what does it matter if it's a woman or a man with the point of view, if we're trying to avoid sexism? I would like to point out that women can also be sexist for OR against women. You're not immune to it.

Longbows.

At the battle of Agincourt the English army had longbows, AND made the best use of the land. They dig trenches to stop the french army, and wooden spears to impale horses and knights. As there were woods on the side, the french knights could only come from one side, while being peppered with arrows from 3 sides.

As the land had turned to mud (due to heavy rain), the cavalry couldn't really charge, but tried anyway (morons, yes, charging up a slope of mud, with archers on the side). They were mostly killed by archers, or, because they use tight ranks, the ones who fell were trampled by the ones on the side (those who didn't drowned in mud, because of the weight of their heavy armors).

The French army didn't have any archers, as they mostly used crossbows, which were useless because of the damp.

So basically, the English used any advantages they could, while the French army just charged forward, like a bunch of barbarians.

Agincourt is seen as the battle that showed the superiority of ranged attacks, not mobility. On dry land, able to use their mobility, the English army would have been wiped out by the French cavalry.

About armors in game, I don't really want that

well the armour in that picture is just stupid. not even sexy. Take my two characters here





My Arcane Knight and my Martial arts mage.

As you can see the Arcane knight is indeed wearing Practical armour that has that nice feminine flair. Yes there is exposed skin but her armour is enchanted with mage Armour. Yes she has heels, no I don't care what you think.

My Martial arts mage. her dress allows fluid movement. though it should be better connected to the shoulders so it doesn't fall down during combat. Her heels are thick and she is trained in martial arts. she can fight standing on one foot on top of a bamboo pole so heels are no issue for her. Also considering she has access to fire and air magic. she would really only be going melee against things that aren't a major threat to her. or she has run out of mana. She is basically a fire bender.

So would you like to tell me what happens when your first character takes an overhead swing from any sort of weapon, really? A broken shoulder, if not also a gaping, bleeding wound. Unless you know, mage armor magicked it away.

But then she might as well wear a bikini and you can say "lol magic".

I fail to understand even a remote point.

And here we go - whining that "people being forced" (yes, I privately forced everyone to buy/pirate this game using my MAgnum .357 as an argument) and indirect demands all over again.

Just like in any of such threads. What a surprise! Who would think this may happen?!





Looks fantastic.

Oh Kein, you're just gonna follow me around and try your hardest to misinterpret the word forced and things like that aren't you? This isn't even the first time you've done that. I'm beginning to think it's on purpose.

If I am going to play a female in DOS, I am forced to abide by its aesthetic in the sense that -I do not generate it-. Thus, being forced to play a sexualized and anti-realistic aesthetic is a perfectly valid phrase for any game, if that is the only choice -given that I am playing it-. I am forced to play in a medieval setting too. Force has, gasp, multiple meanings based on context!

Also, you are still gonna pick fights after being requested to stop in a previous thread? Nice way to show respect to the devs you're trying to defend, not following their requests of you.

If they go the realistic route they should make the female armor the same as the male armor. Of all the pictures I have seen from medieval times depicting females in armor, they wear the same as the males did, as that was the most practical and cost-effective way to do it. Though personally I would go for something more aesthetically pleasing, if it isn't 100% realistic or practical I don't really care, it is a video game after all if it had been a LARP or something like it then yeah, realism should be the norm, and no this don't mean they should go as far as TERA Online did with their armor, but a good variety of styles ranging from practical to aesthetically pleasing

YoungFreshNewbie
Don't play the game you don't like, simple as that. Nobody forces you so stop acting like you are being forced and this is end of the world. Play another game. Chivalry? War of Roses? All of these feature quite realistic armor, take a look.

lordwolf89

Exactly the whole goddamn point.

If you didn't have sexy female armor in games then you would look like a bloke. So then you would have to go to great pains to show the player that they were playing as a female and not the bloke they thought they were.

Btw, I remembered good article related to subj, comes from one of the artists working @ Larian:

http://orogion.deviantart.com/journal/Save-the-Boob-plate-380891149