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#480584 29/01/14 09:38 PM
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Overall:
- I really enjoyed the game, really promising and I can't wait for the final version!
- It's good to not have to follow a quest marker!
- Multi path to solve an issue is really cool.
- Tactical combat is promising.
- Dialogs system is fun.

Bugs:
- 100% crash when talking to the ghost Desdemona in black cove
- 100% crash when getting close to the jumping chest if you nuke to death before
- Persistent quest marker above your character and compagnion sometimes...
- The quest and dialog with the 2 guards at entrance is wrong if you decide to not fight.
- Some quest don't update correctly (in my second play I can't end the failed experiment (I use the controller this time))
- You gain XP when killing your pet or your compagnion!!! (easier and faster with the pet) Well you can even chain kill one of your character right at the begining to gain lvl 2 (you have to res it at level 2). Fight versus the first guard is way easier...
- You can trade gold for gold... with the barter skill you trade it for benefit... ("lets trade my 80 gold for your 100", "oh yes nice trade"...)

Controls:
- Esc key should cancel pending action (close bag, inventory or casting).

UI:
- No feedback that you gain a talent point.
- Inventory filtering doesn't work.
- No immediate feedback that you can't use an item (like being red in inventory)
- No description of spell before you buy it (which can be misleading as heal spell become regenerate and you already have it!)
- List of known recipe for craft can be nice
- Where is the north? (Character arrow?)

Combat:
- The combat with the 2 guards at entrance is extremly frustrating for a first contact with the game (it was the most difficult fight for me (in my regular play (wizard/ranger) not the one I use my knowledge of the gain to "cheat") and I didn't use companion in one of my game!)
- Archer should either move or choose another target if their arrow hit an obstacle when aiming at a specific target (Currently they can fire in a wall for hours... well I guess as I kill them before)
- Icy ground is overpowered: it can "permantly" disable a character and as close to no effect on player! the player can move slowly and safely without any penality on it, while the AI always rush (except mage) and fall... Maybe it can be tweaked if the slow pace make you cross a smaller distance (and if the AI is using it).
- Burning ground and poison ground can be ignored as they do really low damage especially at high level (1 or 2 pt of damage per turn when you have above 100 hp (200 or even 300) isn't really stopping you)
- Unusued AP seem to be preserved even if you don't use it because of a disable action from the ennemy, well if I stun someone it's not to have him do twice as much action the next round! (Freezed archer firing 4 times when unfreezed is bit weird, expect when they fire 4 times in the same wall see point above, in this case it's a bit pathetic)
- Stance are weak : take for example the Power Stance (melee) : +50 dmg -25% hit +1AP, if you take a single hand weapon that does 100 dmg a hit, without the stance and a 100% chance to hit you deal an average of 100 / 3 dmg per AP spent; with the stance you deal 150 / 4 * (1 - 0.75) = 28.125 dmg per AP. To be interresting you need to have a more than 100% base hit (I don't remember having a 100% hit while fighting)

Skills:
- Some skills need to be bought (lockpicking) it's a bit weird!
- I didn't figure out what the "ways of the XXX" was for.
- Putting point in sneaking seems useless as you can do so many thing with 0 points

Magic:
- Outside combat heal is a pain, casting over and over a small regenerate isn't fun. Outside combat heal should heal for more (only one cast to get back to full life, like regen being on until you get into combat or being full life)
- Icewall is a bit overpowered (see feedback on combat on icy ground and also add the wall effect) (I'm redoing the game without companion and just Icewall/Flare/Regenerate basically and it'sn't really difficult)
- Skill levels seems to have no impact on magic (Spells are limited by overall level not by associated skill and I didn't see any improvement in spell effeciency depending on my skill level. Effeciency seems to be link to my global lvl instead. )

Item:
- Resurect scroll (one use) cost as much as the resurect spell book. Other scroll seem cheaper than the spellbook.
- 2 weapons of the same type can have weird bonus and restriction (Ubber sword Dmg 50 Need lvl 4, Crap sword Dmg 80 Need lvl 2... well I'll keep the Crap sword)


Thank you for reading! I can't wait for the release! Good job!

- Teelo -

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Here's a large bug thread: http://www.larian.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=478277#Post478277

Surprise, surprise, it has lots of details in.

Originally Posted by Teelo

Bugs:
- 100% crash when talking to the ghost Desdemona in black cove

Known

- 100% crash when getting close to the jumping chest if you nuke to death before

NEW. Could you provide more details, please? I've not been able to replicate this, were you using Phoenix?

- Persistent quest marker above your character and compagnion sometimes...

Known

- The quest and dialog with the 2 guards at entrance is wrong if you decide to not fight.

Doesn't exist, have tested - is this on a second game? i.e. reported issue of previous save states infecting new game

- Some quest don't update correctly (in my second play I can't end the failed experiment (I use the controller this time))

Known

- You gain XP when killing your pet or your compagnion!!!
(easier and faster with the pet) Well you can even chain kill one of your character right at the begining to gain lvl 2 (you have to res it at level 2). Fight versus the first guard is way easier...

Known

- You can trade gold for gold... with the barter skill you trade it for benefit... ("lets trade my 80 gold for your 100", "oh yes nice trade"...)


New, but logical; please add to bug thread

Controls:
- Esc key should cancel pending action (close bag, inventory or casting).


Everyone and their dog has asked for this

UI:
- No feedback that you gain a talent point.

Incorrect

- Inventory filtering doesn't work.

Known

- No immediate feedback that you can't use an item (like being red in inventory)


Explain? Shovels / reveal scroll etc have a notification, there's no items that require skill checks at this point. For weapons / items, you can equip them, however the mechanics suggest a reduced usage penalty.

Ever played Dark Souls?

- No description of spell before you buy it (which can be misleading as heal spell become regenerate and you already have it!)

Known

- List of known recipe for craft can be nice

Asked for multiple times; currently exist in game via books

- Where is the north? (Character arrow?)


Fixed camera = North is "up"

Combat:
- The combat with the 2 guards at entrance is extremly frustrating for a first contact with the game (it was the most difficult fight for me (in my regular play (wizard/ranger) not the one I use my knowledge of the gain to "cheat") and I didn't use companion in one of my game!)


Reported multiple times

- Archer should either move or choose another target if their arrow hit an obstacle when aiming at a specific target (Currently they can fire in a wall for hours... well I guess as I kill them before)

Reported many times

- Icy ground is overpowered: it can "permantly" disable a character and as close to no effect on player! the player can move slowly and safely without any penality on it, while the AI always rush (except mage) and fall... Maybe it can be tweaked if the slow pace make you cross a smaller distance (and if the AI is using it).


Reported many times

- Burning ground and poison ground can be ignored as they do really low damage especially at high level (1 or 2 pt of damage per turn when you have above 100 hp (200 or even 300) isn't really stopping you)

Reported many times

- Unusued AP seem to be preserved even if you don't use it because of a disable action from the ennemy, well if I stun someone it's not to have him do twice as much action the next round! (Freezed archer firing 4 times when unfreezed is bit weird, expect when they fire 4 times in the same wall see point above, in this case it's a bit pathetic)

NEW! Interesting, and worth the rest of this inane post

- Stance are weak : take for example the Power Stance (melee) : +50 dmg -25% hit +1AP, if you take a single hand weapon that does 100 dmg a hit, without the stance and a 100% chance to hit you deal an average of 100 / 3 dmg per AP spent; with the stance you deal 150 / 4 * (1 - 0.75) = 28.125 dmg per AP. To be interresting you need to have a more than 100% base hit (I don't remember having a 100% hit while fighting)

Issues with stances have been reported, alpha = non-balanced in many skills

Skills:
- Some skills need to be bought (lockpicking) it's a bit weird!

Reported many times

- I didn't figure out what the "ways of the XXX" was for.

New? Explain please

- Putting point in sneaking seems useless as you can do so many thing with 0 points

Reported many times; sneak isn't skill based atm, no NPC perception checks

Magic:
- Outside combat heal is a pain, casting over and over a small regenerate isn't fun. Outside combat heal should heal for more (only one cast to get back to full life, like regen being on until you get into combat or being full life)

Known

- Icewall is a bit overpowered (see feedback on combat on icy ground and also add the wall effect) (I'm redoing the game without companion and just Icewall/Flare/Regenerate basically and it'sn't really difficult)

Known

- Skill levels seems to have no impact on magic (Spells are limited by overall level not by associated skill and I didn't see any improvement in spell effeciency depending on my skill level. Effeciency seems to be link to my global lvl instead. )

Known; not in this alpha build

Item:
- Resurect scroll (one use) cost as much as the resurect spell book. Other scroll seem cheaper than the spellbook.

Known

- 2 weapons of the same type can have weird bonus and restriction (Ubber sword Dmg 50 Need lvl 4, Crap sword Dmg 80 Need lvl 2... well I'll keep the Crap sword)

Known

Thank you for reading! I can't wait for the release! Good job!

- Teelo -




Here's a tip: read the rest of the forums, please. You could be useful, and take all the Green stuff and add it to this thread:

http://www.larian.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=478277#Post478277

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That's a little harsh. While a review of the recent bug report topics would certainly be appreciated before posting, there are hundreds of topics and thousands of posts in the alpha forum, and I can certainly see why someone would just post without doing so (especially when it isn't just one or two issues that could easily be searched for). It is better to have repeated bug reports than to miss some issues if reporting them is too much of a bother.

After the next update I'll compile a 'known issues' list, which should make it easier for people to check if something has already been reported, so it may cut down on duplicate reports. That said, duplicate reports can also contain additional info which may be useful.

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I want to confirm what Raze said - we scan all reports and automatically resolve is something is duplicate. I prefer hearing about a problem several times than not hearing about it because people don't have the time to check if it's already posted.

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I've update the bug thread with the specific issue which seems "new". By the way I find the title misleading as it's not the current version and it's not a sticky (sticky == official)

Two issues I didn't add because it will probably be flag as alpha/known:
- No immediate feedback that you can't use a weapon or armor: You need to read the weapon tool tip to get the information or try to equip it (I had the issue when I unequipped an item that was given me a bonus to a skill, I didn't figure out I wasn't able to equip the new weapon after that but there was no visual feedback that I wasn't able to use it now (like a red glow...)).

- I didn't figure out what the "ways of the XXX" was for. Both skill seems to have no effect in game as a warrior I can buy ranger skill without a single point in Ways of the survivor or ranger (I don't remember the exact name).

As for the tip thank you but I prefer spending time playing rather than reading forums smile.

- Teelo -


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