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Item Drops and Stat Manipulation #517053 12/07/14 01:04 AM
Joined: Jul 2014 A Adrasticus OP stranger
OP Adrasticus stranger A Joined: Jul 2014	As I played through Divinity Original Sin this was the single most frustrating aspect of the game for me. Loot did not feel like it progressed at all, boss fights did not drop any particularly strong items, and most of my best pulls came from a random barrel that just happened to generate a blue with the stats I needed. I'm not looking to turn this into a discussion of the current loot system however. I am just looking for any tips or places to start in regards to the items. Any special editing programs I need or how to use the Divinity Engine to manipulate the loot scripts and database. Thanks in advance for your help!

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Adrasticus #517070 12/07/14 01:28 AM
Joined: Jul 2014 A anub stranger
anub stranger A Joined: Jul 2014	Unpack main.pak with the utility program in the sticky, you'll find .xlsm files. Open them in excel and you generate raw text files with All.xlsm, after editing any of the other .xlsm files. Put these raw .txt files in a folder structure for your mod and share. The .xlsm files are all flat files so it should be straight forward. The spreadsheets are all interwoven. I THINK you need to start a new game for changes to take effect. Last edited by anub; 12/07/14 01:28 AM.

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Adrasticus #517495 12/07/14 04:31 PM
Joined: Jul 2014 A Adrasticus OP stranger
OP Adrasticus stranger A Joined: Jul 2014	Thank you. That was extremely helpful. Text file uploaded here - http://speedy.sh/SC46U/TreasureTable.txt How do you get it into your game data? Changelog Bosses have an increased payout. Rings are more common than amulets now, you got one necklace slot and two fingers amirite? Secondary gear such as boots and bracers more common Increased rarity (slightly) accross the board and elites and bosses will drop more loot in general Rare drops now have a 10% chance of being Legendary Uncommon have a 25% chance to be Rare (Increase of 5%) Random Loot is now less Junk No changes to shops or containers specifically. Considering making Lucky much more worth the investment of skill points. Question. There is a drop item called Precious referenced in the tables but I cannot find an item detailing what this is or values for it, does anyone know?

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Adrasticus #517499 12/07/14 04:34 PM
Joined: Jul 2014 A anub stranger
anub stranger A Joined: Jul 2014	A lot of the excel stuff just isn't known. Like, is 'Sourcery' the internal keyname for Witchcraft? Is Blackrock the internal name for Tenebrium? To get them into your game, you need to know the file structure. Get lstools and investigate Main.pak.

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Adrasticus #517534 12/07/14 05:18 PM
Joined: Jul 2014 A Adrasticus OP stranger
OP Adrasticus stranger A Joined: Jul 2014	I know the file structure, do I recreate the same file structure I.E. add in folders into Data\Public\Main or do I recreate the Main.pak file with the updated files?

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Adrasticus #517551 12/07/14 05:35 PM
Joined: Jul 2014 A anub stranger
anub stranger A Joined: Jul 2014	I want to say yes, I downloaded a mod recently that had Stats as so: Data\Public\ModName\Stats

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Adrasticus #517579 12/07/14 06:02 PM
Joined: Jul 2014 S Squee9 stranger
Squee9 stranger S Joined: Jul 2014	I'm following this with interest, as my current goal is to drop one specific item in to an existing save game without needing to restart. Specifically, the reveal scroll needed for a certain quest. Many people are losing or misplacing this item hours before the quest comes up, and it would be good to have a solution that wasn't restarting your whole game.

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Adrasticus #517588 12/07/14 06:10 PM
Joined: Jul 2014 A anub stranger
anub stranger A Joined: Jul 2014	Can anyone post a mod which effects a single item in the main campaign? Be it actually introducing a unique item or changing the mod values around? Every single edit I've made so far of Armor.xlsm, Weapon.xlsm, and DeltaModifiers.xlsm has created a "trying to add boost to boostgroup, but no current boostgroup?" error in the "messages" part of the editor on level load. Is this /normal/? I don't want to make a bunch of item modifications, start a new game, and then realize they aren't working at all. There's nothing indicating my item mod changes are taking effect and that at least according the editor I'm doing something wrong. Right now, I'm only changing Armor.xlsm and Deltamodifiers.xlsm. This happens even when I delete EVERYTHING from Generated and generate all again and even when I only modify existing DeltaModifiers.

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Adrasticus #517688 12/07/14 07:25 PM
Joined: Jul 2014 A Arglaar stranger
Arglaar stranger A Joined: Jul 2014	Originally Posted by Adrasticus Text file uploaded here - http://speedy.sh/SC46U/TreasureTable.txt Any chance you can upload this to a site that doesn't require me to install some download manager just to download a ~100k text file? Last edited by Arglaar; 12/07/14 07:26 PM.

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Adrasticus #517707 12/07/14 08:03 PM
Joined: Jul 2014 A anub stranger
anub stranger A Joined: Jul 2014	You can get it yourself with lstools.

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Adrasticus #518292 13/07/14 01:49 PM
Joined: Jul 2014 C ChaosDancer stranger
ChaosDancer stranger C Joined: Jul 2014	Greetings mate if you can set up the text file in a mod and upload i would much appreciated it. I tied setting it up as a mod but i can't make it work. Thank you for your work

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Arglaar #519077 14/07/14 04:04 PM
Joined: Jul 2014 N Neurotoxin stranger
Neurotoxin stranger N Joined: Jul 2014	Originally Posted by Arglaar Originally Posted by Adrasticus Text file uploaded here - http://speedy.sh/SC46U/TreasureTable.txt Any chance you can upload this to a site that doesn't require me to install some download manager just to download a ~100k text file? You can get the file from this site by just clicking the name at the top I haven't tried yet but using the modified main mod which you can get Here, putting the file in Data\Public\Modified_Main_9b125d2b-c4a0-4107-bd38-d0d6bdbcbb4b\Stats\TreasureTable.txt should in theory work. Last edited by Neurotoxin; 14/07/14 04:08 PM.

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Adrasticus #519456 15/07/14 02:36 AM
Joined: Jul 2014 D Ded1 stranger
Ded1 stranger D Joined: Jul 2014	So i was hoping that you would give Lucky Charm a greater benefit in finding more items. That way it would give a greater chance to get gear for your desired build. And are there any conformations that the mod works with that test folder refered to. Last edited by Ded1; 15/07/14 02:37 AM.

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Ded1 #519554 15/07/14 05:44 AM
Joined: Jul 2014 N Neurotoxin stranger
Neurotoxin stranger N Joined: Jul 2014	Originally Posted by Ded1 So i was hoping that you would give Lucky Charm a greater benefit in finding more items. That way it would give a greater chance to get gear for your desired build. And are there any conformations that the mod works with that test folder refered to. This information is coming from one tester on one (starting) playthrough. Blazing through the intro bit of the game to level 4 (maybe 2 hours) and looting a ton of stuff I have received 1 legendary level 4 item. In previous playthroughs I don't recall having seen a single legendary before level 6-8ish. A good portion of the loot seems to be either blues or greens and several have required loremaster 2 to identify (which has also not been the case in previous playthroughs). It also seems I'm getting more rings as accesories rather than amulets everywhere. So on my end I'd say it's working but, the loot in this game IS randomly generated so I could just be getting very lucky. I'm leaning towards it working though.

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Adrasticus #519833 15/07/14 02:49 PM
Joined: Jul 2014 D Ded1 stranger
Ded1 stranger D Joined: Jul 2014	does it seem like more is dropping or is it just higher quality? Cause i meant increase the drop rate with lucky charm so you have a greater chance of getting gear for they way you want to build seeing as the loot is random.

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Adrasticus #519869 15/07/14 03:31 PM
Joined: Jul 2014 C ChaosDancer stranger
ChaosDancer stranger C Joined: Jul 2014	Ok mate i hope this work, i downloaded the empty mod which i put on my data folder. I then went to the Public\Modified_Main_9b125d2b-c4a0-4107-bd38-d0d6bdbcbb4b\ but it only had one folder there RootTemplates which was empty, so i created alongside it a folder named stats and put the txt file there. Is that the way i should do it?

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Ded1 #520069 15/07/14 07:08 PM
Joined: Jul 2014 N Neurotoxin stranger
Neurotoxin stranger N Joined: Jul 2014	Originally Posted by Ded1 does it seem like more is dropping or is it just higher quality? Cause i meant increase the drop rate with lucky charm so you have a greater chance of getting gear for they way you want to build seeing as the loot is random. Honestly, I didn't get too far in but yes, gear seems easier to come by in general. It's the first time I managed to get out of cyseal with everyone in level appropriate (level 4) gear without buying any. Of course I looted more (read: every box and/or barrel along the way) to see what effect this mod was having. I'll probably play for a while today as well so I'll give some more feedback when I've got a chance later on. Originally Posted by ChaosDancer Ok mate i hope this work, i downloaded the empty mod which i put on my data folder. I then went to the Public\Modified_Main_9b125d2b-c4a0-4107-bd38-d0d6bdbcbb4b\ but it only had one folder there RootTemplates which was empty, so i created alongside it a folder named stats and put the txt file there. Is that the way i should do it? Yep, this should work as well with previous saves if you follow the information in the link I posted, boiling that down because I know it's a wall of text: Save your main game (I.E. I named mine main) Install the mod (you CAN do this first just don't actiate it in the menu) Activate the mod in the main menu Make a new game and save as soon as you have control(I named this one Temp). Find your saves, should be something like Documents\Larian Studios\Divinity Original Sin\PlayerProfiles\<PorfileName>\Savegames copy the Temp.lsb from inside the temp folder over to the Main folder. Backup your Main.lsb (just rename it to Main.lsb.bak or something) Rename Temp.lsb to Main.lsb and viola, you can now load your original saved game with the mod active.

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Adrasticus #520277 15/07/14 10:08 PM
Joined: Jul 2014 D Ded1 stranger
Ded1 stranger D Joined: Jul 2014	i must just have absolutely horrible luck then because i don't really see a difference in gear. The mod is in the proper location because the other 2 i have are working. Last edited by Ded1; 15/07/14 10:09 PM.

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Neurotoxin #522590 18/07/14 04:40 AM
Joined: May 2014 R Ruthless Jack stranger
Ruthless Jack stranger R Joined: May 2014	Originally Posted by Neurotoxin Originally Posted by Ded1 does it seem like more is dropping or is it just higher quality? Cause i meant increase the drop rate with lucky charm so you have a greater chance of getting gear for they way you want to build seeing as the loot is random. Honestly, I didn't get too far in but yes, gear seems easier to come by in general. It's the first time I managed to get out of cyseal with everyone in level appropriate (level 4) gear without buying any. Of course I looted more (read: every box and/or barrel along the way) to see what effect this mod was having. I'll probably play for a while today as well so I'll give some more feedback when I've got a chance later on. Originally Posted by ChaosDancer Ok mate i hope this work, i downloaded the empty mod which i put on my data folder. I then went to the Public\Modified_Main_9b125d2b-c4a0-4107-bd38-d0d6bdbcbb4b\ but it only had one folder there RootTemplates which was empty, so i created alongside it a folder named stats and put the txt file there. Is that the way i should do it? Yep, this should work as well with previous saves if you follow the information in the link I posted, boiling that down because I know it's a wall of text: Save your main game (I.E. I named mine main) Install the mod (you CAN do this first just don't actiate it in the menu) Activate the mod in the main menu Make a new game and save as soon as you have control(I named this one Temp). Find your saves, should be something like Documents\Larian Studios\Divinity Original Sin\PlayerProfiles\<PorfileName>\Savegames copy the Temp.lsb from inside the temp folder over to the Main folder. Backup your Main.lsb (just rename it to Main.lsb.bak or something) Rename Temp.lsb to Main.lsb and viola, you can now load your original saved game with the mod active. I don't know if this is something that has recently changed but in my save files that I named temp and main, there is no main.lsb or temp.lsb. the save folders have 3 lsb files in them named globals.lsb, meta.lsb, and sanity.lsb. So do I move meta or globals?

Re: Item Drops and Stat Manipulation Ruthless Jack #523281 19/07/14 02:03 AM
Joined: Jul 2014 M mkpkp stranger
mkpkp stranger M Joined: Jul 2014	yes it was changed in recent patch

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