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#110868 17/09/03 09:30 AM
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never played FF games before. how is it in relation 2 DD? i know it's turn-based & definitely the skill systems as well as stats are totally different. what else? make me impressed, people. make me wanna buy them all!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

ok, so that was overblown. i like the CGs as well as the soundtrack of FF series & i happen 2 collect them as i find them on the net. they're ultra cool. & unique! that's number one in FF series, i guess.


First, if you don't have a console and only a PC, the only FFs available to you are FFVII and FFVIII -- sans emulators. I've only played these two, and will limit my analysis to them.

1. Adventure/action -- it doesn't play like a RPG. You don't have much say in how your characters develop. They are all on a set path. Neither VII nor VIII has an explicit "class," but it's fairly obvious which characters excel at melee or magic.

2. Godawful translation -- something - make that a lot of things - is lost between the transition from Japanese to English. I know that an Asian language usually translates horribly to English, but there is no excuse for the sub-literature level of the language in FFVII-VIII. The vocabulary looks like that of a ten-years-old, and the grammar and punctuation are pitiful. Thus, most of the dialogue sounds absolutely trite and corny. Don't go in expecting something even half-decent, here. It's not. It's simply poor.

3. VII -- there are very few sub-quests. Most of the quests are part of the main storyline, so the game is very, very linear.

VIII -- I haven't finished it, and am losing interest fast. Nevertheless, there doesn't seem to be any sub-quest so far.

4. Godawful graphics -- it seems very obvious that there was very little thought or effort put into converting the games to PC versions. There are pixels -- large, obvious ones -- everywhere. And that, on pre-rendered backgrounds. To note, though, the graphics in VII's combat mode is tolerable and, oddly enough, better than that of VIII's. VIII's cutscenes/CG are excellent, though. Right up there with Blizzard, believe it or not.

5. Gameplay -- again, it's obvious that little was done. Neither VII nor VIII supports a mouse. It's all about keyboard, and the interface still looks like it is in the PS. There are still "memory slots" for saving, for peanut's sake. Can we say, lazy programmers?

6. Combat -- is what Squaresoft elects to call "real-time turn-based" (oxymoron, eh?). It works. Of sorts. Each of your character takes turn doing his/her assigned command, and all the while, so do your opponents. They don't care if you've completed your turn or not. They do their things and you do yours. Not much strategy is needed. In FFVII, I just let my characters melee the common monsters and use big spells/summoned creatures against the bigger monsters. In FFVIII, well, I draw/cast spells and summon Guardian Force. The melee attack is, simply put, laughable. This applies for every character. Magic is always stronger in VIII.

Now, despite my long list of complaints, you'll be surprised that I actually like FFVII (VIII is another animal entirely). The story isn't particularly original, nor are the characters the likes of which you will see in literature. But it is enjoyable and cute. Shallow, but entertaining. Like junkfood, or pulp fictions such as Harry Potter, or comic books. It also has a... very interesting ending. Oh, and atmosphere. I find it to be immersive despite its horrible graphics. The combination of slightly corny midi's and a number of other things seems to have a special alchemy for me. FFVII isn't something I'll play twice, but I had a lot of fun while doing it for the first and only time.

FFVIII has a lot of pretty CGs. That's about the only good thing I'll say about it.

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well thanks for the thought & info. however FF X-2 may have different styles & gameplays as well as quests(which i doubt has side quests as u said).

but i shouldn't worry my balding head as it won't come 2 pc at all.


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Ok so at this point you should all be waitint for FF XI

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wow...if you don't have a PS2 i honestly feel very sorry for you <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
The PS2 is the best system ever...it always gets the most games made for it too! Isn't that just wonderful! It's also a dvd player and cd player. PC games are cool though..My fav game is a PC game...Baulder's Gate series...i'm hooked..if any of you hear of any game that sounds like it might be like Baulder's Gate tell me please !!!


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wow...if you don't have a PS2 i honestly feel very sorry for you <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
The PS2 is the best system ever...it always gets the most games made for it too! Isn't that just wonderful! It's also a dvd player and cd player. PC games are cool though..My fav game is a PC game...Baulder's Gate series...i'm hooked..if any of you hear of any game that sounds like it might be like Baulder's Gate tell me please !!!

I don't have a PS2. And if I had the money, I would've bought an Xbox.
Even Gamecube-Q can play DVD but Xbox can be used to play DivX, Video CDs... plus I really like the game selection since anime and japanese art (except for the classic japanese ink drawing) are my least favorite styles.

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I have too little time as it is, with a PC and lots and lots of books. So, no, even though I do have the money, I'm never going to get a console. Ironically, I am an Asian, and grew up with anime/manga of all sorts.

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thanks for the sympathy, raven. good of u & everyone 2 share what they think is good.

we'll see how it goes later on in the future then maybe i might get me a unit. as for xbox, well i don't think so as the games are not as extensive/many as that of ps1 & ps2. plus, i've enough of microsoft in my pc. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

there's always real life that i have 2 attend to as well.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kitty.gif" alt="" />

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lol, when you said that you were going to get a unit...you made me think of Dynasty Warriors 4, which my friends has...they also say so and so has routed so and so's unit...i think it's funny! Well if you don't want one you don't have to get one..but i think it's a must for any 0-18 year older...yes even those not born yet <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />
That game Arx Fatalis sucked...well, if you like first person shooter screens than i guess you'd like it..but personally i like to be able to SEE my character.

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lol, when you said that you were going to get a unit...you made me think of Dynasty Warriors 4, which my friends has...they also say so and so has routed so and so's unit...i think it's funny! Well if you don't want one you don't have to get one..but i think it's a must for any 0-18 year older...yes even those not born yet <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />
That game Arx Fatalis sucked...well, if you like first person shooter screens than i guess you'd like it..but personally i like to be able to SEE my character.

Danielle


Arx Fatalis was good.
And you can see your character during cinematics and when you click the journal screen.

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Dynasty warriors is a great action series

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so you've played DDW4, then my friends would love you...haha..she got me to help her win in this one match...with this guy Meng Huo or something like that...i had to be the fat guy! And she got to be the girl that kicked butt..she said that the fat guy kept dying so she wanted me to be him..it was funny watching me run away from everything though. Well, like i said, it's just my personal preference that Arx fatalis totally sucked...not only that i had to wait like 7 hours to finish the download...anybody else have any good games they would like to share that i could download the demo?

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here's the link to the official site.


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here is the link to IGN so head over there to get it.

u may however need to sign up at least for a basic membership to access it (& not to forget a whole lot more guides for PC & consoles).

have fun.


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8 was terrible....it made me cry


Yup, me too. VII and VI (or III in Japan) are the best in my opinion.

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I need help?? On the game

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I am looking foward to it more than going to disney land florida for 2 week finalfantasy are the best rpg in the world

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Cloud beats enyone with his wackoff sword have you seen him in KingdomHearts <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

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I've got final fantasy 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 and tactics i have completed them all appart from 1,2 and tactics




BEAT THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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i like dynasty warriors i've got 2 and 4

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Which one is it the rpg master (thats me) shall help you

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