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I tought that now the game is self finaced they could pick the publishers. Also theire is still no "oficial" anounsement from Lar,Lynn that it will publish <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> . So lar can still kick hip games (if the contract hasn't been signed yet ). This is a very bad move made by hip games.


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Beyond Divinity reeks of a focus group charged with keeping the brand recognition


My feelings, also... This is just lame: lazy, and unimaginative marketing. But why would they throw away nearly six months of solid promotion in the rest of the world... the official <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> website, and all the features about the game on other sites like RPGdot.com and ign? Are North American gamers really that isolated and narrow in their focus? Or is it the publishers who are out of touch? (** grumble ** wonder if i can order my copy from Digital Jesters!)

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I would realy love to see the name :rift: kept. If they still do difficult maybe they can do this.
Riftrunner


from the people that brougt us divine divinty


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right on, Morbo! and there is a very nice <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> Universe logo, also!

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It would make sense if the "Beyond Divinity"as just a sub-header of the article.

Apart from that I'm puzzled ...


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I'm puzzled too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
I had a look to the web sites of Ubi Soft and Digital Gesters, for them the name is still Riftrunner and not "Beyond....."

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Ah, come now! Everyone knows WE AMERICANS (or anyone on the North American Continent) cannot Spell RIFTRUNNER!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> Wasn't it mentioned befor that HIP was a subsidiary of CDV? That should explain things... I can just imagine the look on Lar's face! Did anyone notice they had a release date of 02/24/04? MMM...BTW, I have just got my new gaming mags for January. There is still no mention of Riftrunner, or ehem, Beyond Divinity! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" /> Who's got the football?


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First of all, thank you, people, for the warm welcome.
I never forgot Jurak, nor Barta or Raze. Good to see you guys.

Hip is indeed the developper for North America, can't say I am very happy with it, though: they made Dead to Rights for PC and when they shipped it and the game was in stores, they realised that there was a bug at the training mission (unskipable) which prevents you from continuing.

What about Ubi Soft, Barta? It's the dev in france? If yes, I might try to get the french version <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> (me likes Ubi).

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What about Ubi Soft, Barta? It's the dev in france? If yes, I might try to get the french version <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> (me likes Ubi).


Yes Ubi Soft is a french company. It has a good reputation here in France.
But i will try to get the english version because i always prefer original versions (except if i do not understand the language).
And for helping in this forum it's easier with the english version.

For Divine Divinity, some people told me that the translation in french was not always good.

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" />Death i am happy to see that you are feeling fine and that you will be back here.
At least for Riftrunner (or maybe for Beyond Divinity <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />).
I know that your school work needs a lot of time and it is not easy to spend too much time in a forum.

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I guess someone from Larian will make a comment on this?

I'm sure since that they have <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> that is what they will choose to use, but who really knows.

Ironically I never thought Divine Divinity was that bad of a name, or at least not to get as much talk as it did in every review. To me it is the same as if someone was to say Holy God.

Then again, people see things differently.

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If hipgames does change the name they will possibly loose money due to the fact that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> has been the original name for the next game in the <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> series from the start.

I checked out hipgames 'contack' link and you get the chance to send the a question.
This was my question

"I thought the name of the next game from Larian Studios was "Riftrunner" not Beyond Divinity? did you change the name of the game?"

ask your question here hipgame contact page

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Well, I imagine fans will buy the game no matter what name they choose.

I thought Gothic was a good game but I doubt it made sales based on the name. Seemed alot of people turned away from the game because of the controls but it was the fans there for Gothic 2.

They could call the game Riffraff and I would still buy it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

No disrespect there and I know fans would rather have a cool name.




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They could call the game Riffraff and I would still buy it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Riffraff would be actually a very nice name... it could make "Rocky Horror Picture Show" fans buy the game. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Other than that, I am very curious about what the Larians will say about this. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />


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"Riftrunner Horror Picture Show" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


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If hipgames does change the name they will possibly loose money due to the fact that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> has been the original name for the next game in the <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> series from the start.

I checked out hipgames 'contack' link and you get the chance to send the a question.
This was my question

"I thought the name of the next game from Larian Studios was "Riftrunner" not Beyond Divinity? did you change the name of the game?"


I can't imagine that the same game could be called "Beyond Divinity" in North America and "Riftrunner" in Europe.
It's stupid and confusing.
I am used to the name of "Riftrunner" and i am a little bit disappointed.
But i am confident in Larian, they are doing the best to give us a great game and if they decided to change the name they must have good reasons to do it.
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Ironically I never thought Divine Divinity was that bad of a name, or at least not to get as much talk as it did in every review.


I like the name. I start to chuckle a little every time I think about it. Much more memorable than some generic "Magic Warriors Mystic Quest" title.

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Some games are renamed in different countries for reasons unknown. Sim Rollercoaster was renamed Theme Prak World in Australia. Buggered if I know why. Even the official site acknowledged the name change in Australia.

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we will have to give larians some time to figure this thing out with the hipsters. talk about getting shot in the hip by HIP. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/down.gif" alt="" />

all of us forum members would know RRR despite name change but others who may not know about it will wait in vain for RRR when it already did but with another name. this is going to be bad for larian. this time i guess, larian will have to push their name more to the forefront so that once people notice the larian logo, they'll know it's the producers of DD so their new product(s) rock!

i cannot blame the HIPpies for pushing the name 'Divinity' for the cover as they may think it's to continue establishing the brandname which is 'Divinity'. but putting 'Beyond' is a bad call. they could've done better by making it 'Divinity: Riftrunner' which can be interpreted as a game in Divinity universe. just like what george lucas did with his star wars franchise; Star Wars: Return of the Jedi (movie), Star Wars: Rebel Assault (video game), Star Wars: Galactic Battleground (pc game). paste 'star wars' accompanied by ':' then u got yourself a franchise.

larian can do the same with RRR. just remove the 'beyond' please. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


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