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will it need a substantially faster PC to run this compared to D:OS 1 ? It run fine on medium settings on my PC, I've already backed the kickstarter and wonder if it will cause a problem. here is my PC :
DELL XPS 8300 Intel Core(TM) i5-2320 CPU @ 3.00 GHz 8 Go Ram
graphic card is: AMD Radeon HD 6450
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That looks like a pretty modern system, so I think you're fine.
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I am pretty sure you will be able to run it. D:OS had quite modest reqs so that I was able to run it on my 5-years-old laptop.
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The CPU is fine.
RAM, probably fine, most games target 8 GB system RAM because that's what most systems use and you can always tune down e.g. textures anyway.
That's an *extremely* weak graphics card that was not really suitable for more than casual gaming when it was released. Graphics requirements are *very* scalable, and you can probably tune screen resolution, texture resolution and detail down enough to make the game playable for you; but it's not going to be a good experience. It's comparable to an intel HD 4400 (integrated) GPU (which was minimum spec for divinity original sin).
If you want to play games, do yourself a favour and get a decent graphics card, it makes a huge difference. In 2011 I bought a HD 6870, now retired; it cost about 150 euros at the time. This card is still reasonable, about 10 times faster than what you have. If you're on a very tight budget and you have a decent power supply already in the machine and you can fit a full sized card, you can find a used HD6870, 560 ti, or 650 ti for about 40 euros on ebay or local equivalent. If you don't have a reasonable power supply (one or less PCI-E connectors or not enough amps on the 12 V), and you're on a tight budget, your best bet is to get a low end card at retail for about 100-150 eur (e.g. the 750 ti, which does not need a PCI-E connector at all and is slightly faster than the 6870).
A 10x difference is like the difference between 720p without AF at 30 FPS and 1440p (4x number of pixels) at 60 FPS (2x number of pixels) with 16x AF (the performance hit is negligible on a modern GPU, but in a bandwidth-limited scenario you might take a small hit). It takes a game that's barely playable to you now and makes it comfortably playable.
Last edited by Markus G; 20/09/15 04:19 PM. Reason: ETA
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The CPU is fine.
RAM, probably fine, most games target 8 GB system RAM because that's what most systems use and you can always tune down e.g. textures anyway.
That's an *extremely* weak graphics card that was not really suitable for more than casual gaming when it was released. Graphics requirements are *very* scalable, and you can probably tune screen resolution, texture resolution and detail down enough to make the game playable for you; but it's not going to be a good experience. It's comparable to an intel HD 4400 (integrated) GPU (which was minimum spec for divinity original sin).
If you want to play games, do yourself a favour and get a decent graphics card, it makes a huge difference. In 2011 I bought a HD 6870, now retired; it cost about 150 euros at the time. This card is still reasonable, about 10 times faster than what you have. If you're on a very tight budget and you have a decent power supply already in the machine and you can fit a full sized card, you can find a used HD6870, 560 ti, or 650 ti for about 40 euros on ebay or local equivalent. If you don't have a reasonable power supply (one or less PCI-E connectors or not enough amps on the 12 V), and you're on a tight budget, your best bet is to get a low end card at retail for about 100-150 eur (e.g. the 750 ti, which does not need a PCI-E connector at all and is slightly faster than the 6870).
A 10x difference is like the difference between 720p without AF at 30 FPS and 1440p (4x number of pixels) at 60 FPS (2x number of pixels) with 16x AF (the performance hit is negligible on a modern GPU, but in a bandwidth-limited scenario you might take a small hit). It takes a game that's barely playable to you now and makes it comfortably playable. Thanks a lot for the anwser. Im not much of a tech guy and had no clue the card was that bad. I'll be looking for a new one.
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My computer is several years old but I have no problems playing D:OS1.
Is there any information if system requirements for the EE and D:OS2 are significantly higher than D:OS1?
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There is no information about D:OS 2 yet; it is being built on the D:OS EE engine, but there is still a lot of development left to do. For D:OS EE, the requirements are similar to D:OS (a little more graphically demanding, but with optimizations and multithreading improvements), except for being 64 bit, rather than 32, and in Windows using DirectX 11 rather than 9c. From the EE FAQ; Min. requirements: Windows 7 SP1 64 bit or Windows 8.1 64 bit, or higher; Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 or equivalent, 4GB memory, DirectX 11 compatible GPU Recommended: Windows 7 SP1 64 bit or Windows 8.1 64 bit, or higher; Intel i5 2400 or higher, 4GB memory, NVIDIAョ GeForceョ GTX 550 or ATI Radeon HD 6XXX or higher
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Thanks a lot for the anwser. Im not much of a tech guy and had no clue the card was that bad. I'll be looking for a new one. A couple of tips: There are many sites doing benchmarks and recommending graphics cards in various price brackets. Do read up a bit on the current crop of cards before you buy. Look at relevant benchmarks; i.e. you probably don't care about which card performs best at 4k if you don't use a 4k screen. You will want to figure out how much juice your power supply puts out (Amps at 12 V, total wattage, are there spare PCI-E connectors?); it usually says in plain text on the side. You don't want to put in a new 750 W power supply and a massive 300 W card in a tiny, poorly ventilated computer case; odds are if you didn't build it yourself, the powersupply that's already in there is appropriate for the chassis. (cards can indeed be larger than what will fit inside a midi case!). Don't rely on "series number" as an indicator of performance; it's not, it just indicates when the card was released. A newer card may just be a rebadged of the same chip with minor tweaks; a card from an older series can be faster. E.g. an nvidia 780 ti is an older high end card and is faster than a 950, which is a newer mid-end card. Often there are good deals when an older generation is phased out. Again, look at benchmarks, look at how much power it can draw. The total amount of graphics card RAM does matter, but it's not hugely imporant. A low end card can have a lot of ram because it's cheap, slow RAM. Again, look at the benchmarks. A properly designed cooler may be worth a little bit extra compared to a cheap "leaf-blower" design. Stock fans are much better than they used to be back in the day(e.g. see FX 5800 ultra, for something right out of the little shop of horrors). You can usually get a much better fan design for $10 euro extra. You want a big chunk of aluminium with heat pipes and large, slow moving fans; several of them on a high end card. Large, slow fans just give you a low mellow sound of flowing air; it's not annoying; a single tiny radial fan spinning at 8000 RPM may cool just as well, but it will sound like a hair dryer with a loud, annoying high-pitched whirr. Lower end cards need much less cooling so compare same for same (e.g. if decide you want a R9 370, compared different makes of the same card; a R9 390 will of course have a much better fan and it will need it).
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Thanks a lot for the anwser. Im not much of a tech guy and had no clue the card was that bad. I'll be looking for a new one. A couple of tips: There are many sites doing benchmarks and recommending graphics cards in various price brackets. Do read up a bit on the current crop of cards before you buy. Look at relevant benchmarks; i.e. you probably don't care about which card performs best at 4k if you don't use a 4k screen. You will want to figure out how much juice your power supply puts out (Amps at 12 V, total wattage, are there spare PCI-E connectors?); it usually says in plain text on the side. You don't want to put in a new 750 W power supply and a massive 300 W card in a tiny, poorly ventilated computer case; odds are if you didn't build it yourself, the powersupply that's already in there is appropriate for the chassis. (cards can indeed be larger than what will fit inside a midi case!). Don't rely on "series number" as an indicator of performance; it's not, it just indicates when the card was released. A newer card may just be a rebadged of the same chip with minor tweaks; a card from an older series can be faster. E.g. an nvidia 780 ti is an older high end card and is faster than a 950, which is a newer mid-end card. Often there are good deals when an older generation is phased out. Again, look at benchmarks, look at how much power it can draw. The total amount of graphics card RAM does matter, but it's not hugely imporant. A low end card can have a lot of ram because it's cheap, slow RAM. Again, look at the benchmarks. A properly designed cooler may be worth a little bit extra compared to a cheap "leaf-blower" design. Stock fans are much better than they used to be back in the day(e.g. see FX 5800 ultra, for something right out of the little shop of horrors). You can usually get a much better fan design for $10 euro extra. You want a big chunk of aluminium with heat pipes and large, slow moving fans; several of them on a high end card. Large, slow fans just give you a low mellow sound of flowing air; it's not annoying; a single tiny radial fan spinning at 8000 RPM may cool just as well, but it will sound like a hair dryer with a loud, annoying high-pitched whirr. Lower end cards need much less cooling so compare same for same (e.g. if decide you want a R9 370, compared different makes of the same card; a R9 390 will of course have a much better fan and it will need it). thanks a lot friend. that new nvidia gtx 750-IT is on the way. can't wait to try it on the enhanced edition!
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