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Hi all,

I finally finished all other achievements except this one- i tried to find a guide but the result were different-many told me that this one is bugged some described action with Madora and Forgiving trait...i tried it but not succesfully.
The exact guide what to do will be handy as i want to have all achievements.

Thanks a lot for all advices,


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I'm in the same situation (only this achiev missing), but I'm assuming it's a bug and I will do it later, if I see a new interesting patch/mod and if I see it has been dealt with.

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Hi,

i just finished it-there are much more and other dialogues with Madora and what to do i found it on some forum-there is list of all actions with answers and location where to go....i am happy ....


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Please share the good information =p

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Hi,

here is the detailed guide-it really works

Cyseal:

After the sparkmaster -> Fortunately for us, no one did ask you, Madora. No magician is perfect, and this little fiasco doesn't justify a wholesale rejection of all wizarding kind.

After talking to the grieving orc -> What kind of Source Hunter can't show an ounce of compassion to someone so obviously bereft?

After killing Victoria and telling Eglandear -> I won't deny responsibility for Victoria's death, but I hardly see this case as a cause for special celebration. Victoria was no Sourcerer.

Decide to kill the Charmed orc -> It's hardly the union itself to which I'm opposed - merely that, if that love potion wore off, she might turn violent.
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Decide to spare the Charmed Orc -> Does the thought of interbreeding sicken you so? For my part, the union itself is hardly a problem, and I'd claim that anyone opposed to the couple on those grounds is small-minded indeed.

Talk to Thelyron about the healing stone -> Given your penchant for spotting Source in Cyseal's every harmless cranny, such an accusation holds little weight.

After talking to a guard next to a zapper -> 'Doomsday device'? 'Source sapphire'? Why don't we keep along this 'poisonous path' and carry on with our 'insidious investigation.' Meanwhile, Madora, keep the crackpot commentary to yourself.

After leaving the homestead for the first time -> If what Zixzax says is true and we really are affecting the tapestry of time, I certainly want to know more!


Hiberheim:

After killing a snow warden -> Anything dependent on cloud cover for survival is better put out of its misery, I say.


Luculla Forest:

After talking to Lawrence -> I thought the same; his fawning is more likely a symptom of fear than of respect.

After talking to Almina at the Hiberheim portal -> Now that you mention it, it does seem rather foolish to heed the call of a disembodied voice within a known Sourcerer’s grotto...


Dark Forest:

After hearing Grutilda or Leonard talking about Norok -> Be patient; We can't blow our cover over a personal vendetta.


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As you can see many situations are very suprising like killing Victoria and many which were told to work are not here...after locations are answers which you must choose in dialogue with Madora..


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I had the achiev on classic Original Sin, and I didn't kill Victoria. Well ok I'll try next time ^^

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Hi,

it was not in original divinity original sin-it was added in ehanced edition-i am not sure how many of these situation must be completed but i did all for sure..


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You're right about the achiev in classic!
I just could spare Norok without killing Victoria I believe (I never killed her).

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I am assuming your responses are merely what you did in order to trigger the Achievement rather than the exact correct steps; all your answers in Lucula and Hiber reinforce her opinions, not challenge them, so I would assume they are incorrect. The devs claim you need 5 dialogue options which you provided in Cyseal alone.

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Hi,
I tried it before nd used that stupid guides where there are talk with Mikas,talk with slave in Luculla forest near two orcs,talk in sacred stone prison with eastern stranger and all other non funcional guides-this guide is for simply unlocking the achievement-nothing else is important..so i wonder what are correct steps which you mentioned...
By the way this was worst achievement ever...


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I don't believe you need 5 dialogues alone.

I am sure I got the 5 dialogues alone in the extended version, in MULTIPLES games. And it didn't work.

And if you look at the achiev stats, Sister of Mercy is extra rare. There's 11 dialogs total listed here, and it's generally obvious you must calm Madora down. I don't believe people who take Madora (and there's many of them) don't even pick 50% of the "good answers" in average.

I haven't tried yet romanius16's guide, I'll say what when I'll do (but that's not soon).

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Sigh, just tried it again on the X1, no dice, still bugged. Carefully corrected her at every opportunity....went to the mine, the prison and the orc's slave.....she says the same things when we get upstairs....you give everyone a second chance but I can't.....to arms.....the actaul quest never ever triggers for me until that second.....these devs are idiots......another waste of 15 hours......fun game because of my love of D&D, but wow....just wow.

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Gonna give this BROKEN Achievement 1 last try based solely on romanius16's experience. That said, even if that works (I have my doubts) it doesn't mean the Achievement is not BROKEN...how killing Victoria in any way teaches Madora anything about tolerance and/or mercy makes me fear for the mental state of whatever dev made this Achievement up.

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You don't need to kill Victoria. That is one of the dialogues that can trigger for Madora which can effect her tolerance, which her response should hint at.

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I have tried just about every combination that didn't include killing Victoria, so I am trying it this way. If you actually have the Achievement and took notes of the exact steps you took to get this BROKEN thing, please let the community know as it remains an incredibly low proc across all platforms with no known solution on any of the sites. It would appear the few people who did get it have no idea why and can't remember what dialogue choices they made or if it has anything to do with dialogue options in the first place....absolutely NOT what an Achievement should be...random guessing game that you don't know if you guessed right for 20+ hours....ridiculous....and that this idiocy is what I will remember most from this game is not the greatest business decision Larian could have made.

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Romanius16, you the man!!! Finally popped that ridiculous last Achievement....woohoo!

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Hi ,
i just wnat to help others with this idiotic achievement-i spent hours on many forums and finally i found this working guide-just not think about any logic in this achievement and do all necessary steps from my guide and it will unlock..


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Pay attention to Madora's responses, and it should make sense.
That guide is a copy of the answers I posted (which is fine; I copied it from a list a scripter made), without the information that you need 5 or more of those dialogues, and that in multiplayer both players must agree.

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Raze, it's possible you focus so much on the game that you aren't an active gamer or care much about Achievements; that isn't a bad thing, but you may miss the reason so many are frustrated by this Achievement. Note that none of the other companion quests cause problems; they are all straightforward, with some more challenging than others. I have completed almost all Achievements in the games I played for the last 3 years...it adds a layer of satisfaction to a good game....thousands of Achievements and this is right up there with the most frustrating as you have no way of knowing what to do, which makes it random...and there is nothing more frustrating than having to play 15+ hours to find out you didn't get the random Achievement right. "Teach Madora" mercy is by its own wording nebulous.....do X makes sense...say, complete the game on Honour....most won't take the time to do it, but that doesn't mean the Achievement is not straightforward.

Let's take your words above. If that is your list and noting you keep saying "pay attention to Madora's responses and it should make sense"....yours words...let's see.

After talking to Lawrence -> I thought the same; his fawning is more likely a symptom of fear than of respect. Madora does NOT respond to this.

After killing a snow warden -> Anything dependent on cloud cover for survival is better put out of its misery, I say. Madora does NOT respond to this.

I think there are a few more she makes no reponse to, but I am not playing the game an 8th time to check smile

The other interactions, some she gets mad and some she acknowledges your point....so....no response, angry response and tempered responses.....THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF RANDOM!!!!!!!!! If you can't see that, you are a tad too close to the issue and need to take a step back.

Very enjoyable game and I enjoyed each of my playthroughs.....put off FO 4, TR and AC to play this....and would do a 2 LW playthrough now that this Achievement is out of the way, but I am burnt out and will come back after those 3 games. Thanks.


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