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#614411 18/09/17 10:16 AM
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Hello,

I wanted to buy Original Sin 2 in Poland same as I bought OS1 in polish version but it's even not available here with english language. Not even one shop offers it. Price on steam in euro is impossible to pay. Almost 2 times higher than for games in local currency.

If you don't want to release polish version just please adjust price with local country restriction for Poland. As far as I know Russians are playing the game in their language with correct price for their country.

Sometimes games are not available in local currency but previous one (Original Sin 1) was available so it's strange for me that sequel is not.

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Check [url=https://www.gog.com/]GOG[/url], it might helps (they are polish themselves :p).

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I know wink I bought games from them when they were Good Old Games before.

Same price as on steam. There is no polish release with adequate price. Only Russians got it.

Price on Steam = about 220 PLN
Price on Steam for Russian Federation = about 50 PLN(!)

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well, at least on GOG you'll get part of that money back into your account, as regional price compensation, so you can spend it again for other games. Here in Germany, the GOG version is EUR 45 with a EUR 6.80 refund into your account, so effectively you pay EUR 38,20 (~PLN 164). If that's still too expensive for you, then all I can recommend, is to wait.

As for the language... ever since the beginning, they have said they would release the game "in English, with French, German, and Russian subtitles." No other languages were ever promised/announced. If enough people are interested, they might still do a Polish translation, but if they also have to sell the Polish version at massive discounts, then that translation may very well be too expensive and economically unfeasible.



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I think most of folks won't wait and will play anyway but without paying. Well I can't say I blame them because it's Larian's fault.

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Originally Posted by Godlike
I think most of folks won't wait and will play anyway but without paying. Well I can't say I blame them because it's Larian's fault.


Well, that's kind of hypocrite, don't you agree... people in Poland want Polish translations and they want the game at huge discounts (compared to what the rest of us have to pay), and if they don't get that, instead of completely boycotting the game, they will still play the game (in English, which means Polish isn't all that important to them after all) and without paying a cent for it (ie pirated)... and on top of that, they'll blame Larian for that!
With such an attitude, it's no wonder if Larian that doesn't want to spend extra money on Polish translations...

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Yeah, gotta agree, the reasoning seems to not make a lot of sense...
"I want to play the game in polish, not english !"
"Sorry, no polish version planned."
"Then I'll pirate the english version and play it in english !"
"Err... so why did you ask for the polish version then ?"

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I don't think you understand puprose of this thread. Im talking about buying english version as polish is not available but in normal price and im unable to do so.

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you described 2 things:
1. you wanted a Polish language version, and
2. you want regional pricing, because you can't/don't want to pay the same price as everyone else, and the regional price on GOG isn't good enough for you.

While I understand that Polish salaries may not be high enough to warrant paying full price for such games, that in no way justifies piracy. That's just as bad an excuse as "hey, I want this Ferrari, but I can't afford it off my salary. If you don't sell me the Ferrari for 5000 EUR or less, then I will just steal it!"
If you don't have the money to buy something, then just skip it entirely.

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Thats Central Europe for ya. Most common pay is about 700 dollars/550 euro a month (before taxes) but a game still costs 40-60. Eastern salaries, western prices.

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Originally Posted by The Centaur
you described 2 things:
1. you wanted a Polish language version, and
2. you want regional pricing, because you can't/don't want to pay the same price as everyone else, and the regional price on GOG isn't good enough for you.

While I understand that Polish salaries may not be high enough to warrant paying full price for such games, that in no way justifies piracy. That's just as bad an excuse as "hey, I want this Ferrari, but I can't afford it off my salary. If you don't sell me the Ferrari for 5000 EUR or less, then I will just steal it!"
If you don't have the money to buy something, then just skip it entirely.


Totally wrong. You don't even read it properly or you have a serious problem with understanding text you read.

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you want regional pricing, because you can't/don't want to pay the same price as everyone else

Not as everyone else because Russians are paying 50PLN, is this fraud, theft etc by your means? And for the older Divinity Original Sin 1 we paid also normal price not as "EVERYONE".

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and the regional price on GOG isn't good enough for you.

It's not regional price, it's steam price converted to PLN LOL

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That's just as bad an excuse as "hey, I want this Ferrari, but I can't afford it off my salary. If you don't sell me the Ferrari for 5000 EUR or less


After reading this Im convinced you have a serious problem with understanding text. First we are talking about a typical game, not a luxury car. 99% of games are sold here too along with the Russian Federation and their prices are matched to this country. Second how the older "ferrari" (xD) Divinity Original Sin 1 was available HERE in normal price? Should we pay 2 times more as not everyone and only people from western europe?

Also western price is not a full price. It's western price. Same how Russians have lowered price and it's called Eastern price. Please check your knowledge about how selling/buying works in different countries.

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I get your point, you can easily see how games in Russia and India are way cheeper: https://steamdb.info/app/435150/
and even though I would like it to be at least a bit more equal (now All EU countries pay in euro with a 20% markup :o) it's not really Larian's fault, per se, they just do what every other developer does. :/

I paid 60 euro for Mass Effect Andromeda, now That was a travesty! ;>

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Originally Posted by Godlike
Totally wrong.


Well, that's the whole problem, isn't it... you are so convinced that you have a RIGHT to a lower price (because people in Russia get a lower price, and because you got a lower price for the previous game) that you simply cannot accept the fact that THIS game isn't available at a lower price yet (in your country). It may become available at a lower price at some stage (and it probably will), but it isn't right now. Does that give you the right to pirate the game and play it without paying (as you clearly suggested in your third post)? Definitely not! That is still theft.

Don't get me wrong, I know what people in Poland earn for a living, and how much of your income you would have to spend for one game at this price. I'm definitely not against Steam/GoG offering this game at a lower price in Poland (and I never ever claimed that the Russian regional price is fraud or theft!). I'm just saying that, as long as this particular game is NOT offered at that lower price in your country, then the only legal option you have, is to wait until the price is lowered. Anything else is, and always will be, piracy and theft.
A computer game, just like a Ferrari, is luxury goods. If you can't afford to pay the price that is (currently) asked for them, then skip them. Don't buy them, don't steal/pirate them, don't use them... just wait until the price is lowered to something that you are willing to pay for them. It's as simple as that.


And btw, GOG definitely DOES use regional pricing. Sure, you have to pay the full price (or what you call 'Western price' or 'EUR price converted to PLN') first, but then you get a regional price correction, and you get part of your payment refunded into your GOG account, for (in GOG's own words:) "ANY FUTURE PURCHASE. You get free Wallet funds (our Fair Price Package) to offset the regional pricing." I don't know how much the refund is for Poland, it still may not even be close to the price that you WANT to pay, but when you subtract that refund, the total that you actually have to pay for this game on GOG is definitely less than the 220 PLN that you mentioned.

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You still can't understand first post so it's pointless to argue more.

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He spent half his post explaining you that GOG refund a part of the price to somewhat compensate the difference in average earning. You're the one who is stubbornly not listening.

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Originally Posted by Godlike
You still can't understand first post so it's pointless to argue more.


Agreed... it's pointless. You still don't seem to understand what you said in your own posts.

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Originally Posted by Akka
You're the one who is stubbornly not listening.


Yeah Im not gonna listen something that's not even tied to my question

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He spent half his post explaining you that GOG refund a part of the price to somewhat compensate the difference in average earning. .


Exactly and I don't give a damn about GOG unless they correct the price so he's missing the point completely.

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Originally Posted by Godlike
You still can't understand first post so it's pointless to argue more.


Agreed... it's pointless. You still don't seem to understand what you said in your own posts.


Thank god. Im not gonna teach you how to read text to understand it. It's low education level, at least here in Central Europe. Please don't respond until you learn how to do it. Ah and take your multi Akka account registered yesterday with you.

I also look forward to get opinions from not retarded poeple. Thanks.

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I get your point, you can easily see how games in Russia and India are way cheeper: https://steamdb.info/app/435150/
and even though I would like it to be at least a bit more equal (now All EU countries pay in euro with a 20% markup :o) it's not really Larian's fault, per se, they just do what every other developer does. smirk

I paid 60 euro for Mass Effect Andromeda, now That was a travesty! ;>


I wouldn't blame them if they didn't release first one in polish price too frown There are many games here in english language that have lowered price due the region, sadly not D:OS2

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The issue here could very well be a legal matter outside of Larian's control.

Distribution of software to various countries can be a complex mess. And it does change, just because the company sold one game doesn't mean they won't run into issues for their next game.

Throwing a threat / tantrum about "I'll just pirate it if they don't let me buy it at local price" doesn't exactly help your cause.

Be calm and remember that this could be an issue outside of Larian Studio's control. There ARE countries that end up getting delayed on release for one reason or another. Mostly its due to censorship of course, but that's not the only reason.

So chill, relax, and like someone said, see if GoG offers the "adjusted" price like other posters have said. If they do and you refuse to buy, then for the time being, that's a YOU issue. If they don't, perhaps see if you can send them an email and find out if they have plans to try and do so.

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Im also very frustrated with DOS 2 pricing in Poland. Its totaly ludicrous!

[quote=The Centaur] I want this Ferrari, but I can't afford it off my salary. If you don't sell me the Ferrari for 5000 EUR or less, then I will just steal it!"
If you don't have the money to buy something, then just skip it entirely. [/quote]

If DOS2 is Ferrari ok, lets play with this comparison.

In my country new Ferrari costs ~300 000 euro, so what can i do if in adjacent country this Ferrari costs 100 000 euro.
I could be an idiot and buy this car in a local dealer or i can buy this car from foreign resseler for 100 000 euro with some tax.

The same here dont buy DOS2 on GOG or Steam for 48 Euro . You could buy from resseler Steam/GOG Account with DOS2 game on it from allegro/ebay for 16 Euro.

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Originally Posted by Godlike
Originally Posted by Akka
He spent half his post explaining you that GOG refund a part of the price to somewhat compensate the difference in average earning. .

Exactly and I don't give a damn about GOG unless they correct the price so he's missing the point completely.

So you want GOG to correct the price. That's what they do through refund. And somehow you consider it's not the point ?

Wut ?

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