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#215634 02/04/04 06:24 PM
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Isn't out (yet). But in the mean time check 4 new screenshots here


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Am I wrong or are two of the screenshots identical ?


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Had the same thought.


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#215637 02/04/04 09:14 PM
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Warhammer, you are correct as far as I can tell. I see no difference in the 2nd and 3rd screenshots.

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btw: is theire going to be a peek 33.Because the game is released (only the German version) but released none the less. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />


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I don't think that's a reason to stop the "Peek" series. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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#215640 03/04/04 06:15 AM
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i think it's time to stop them... or at least stop calling them PEEK


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i hope they'll continue to write peeks until the english release.


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The intention is indeed to write Peeks until the release of the English version of <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> Unfortunately we had so much work and didn't make it in time with the Peek for this week. Hope you can forgive us <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Expect a new Peek next week!

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I think I already know about what this PotW will deal with <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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you should VOICE what you think that will be.

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yeah... let us peek into next weeks peek <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />


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What about. Release party before and after <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" /> (would give some nice or ugly pictures depending on how much liquer was moved)


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sounds like an EXCELLENT idea !!!


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#215648 10/04/04 02:03 AM
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it's here

Patch euum hotfix problem. Been theire, been frustraded.

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Sounds like the Larians are experienceing that old "Murphy's Law" if something can go wrong, it will.

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#215650 10/04/04 02:20 AM
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Murphy's laws altough I like Branigan's law alot more

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"Branigan's law is like Branigan's love... hard and fast!" - Zapp Branigan <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />


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#215651 10/04/04 08:33 AM
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Open letter to developpers and editors:

I am sorry to hear about your problems to deploy a patch.
It seems to become a pretty standard song nowadays: a fantastic game is ready,
a normally good QA testing has been done, and here comes the copy protection guys. The game is released, and many problems appear that were not there before the "protection" was added.
Amongst those:
- Slower game
- Frequent CD access (ex: Morrowind)
- Many drives failing to read the CD/DVD
- Game faling to even start
- Frequent crashes
- Requesting latest graphics drivers, but it does not seem to really help.
- etc.
I am sooooo pissed off at this. Games programmers do a superb job, and bang! The Dark Side Guys add a protection that ruins it for a whole lot of players.
I am buying up to 20 games a year, and I have several computers, that I installed myself from scratch, with latest drivers and everything. In the last years, I have had problems with at least 50% of those games. And I am not the only one! Everytime, I was looking desperately to forums for a solution, only to find out that *many* people have the same problem!

Ubisoft is now high on my black list (Most of their games cannot be read by many brand of drives!), but is not alone. We can add THQ, and, it seems, Focus is starting on the same path.

Dear Editors, do you think it is normal that players pay 50 EUR for a game that cannot even play on their standard PC??? This is not an occasional problem! Just check on forums for virtually all latest great games (esp. UBISOFT games), and you will see!

And do you know who is penalized by this?
Not the pirate, no no no no. A pirate will find a crack pretty fast.
But the honest players, the fans, who bought the game with their money, and cannot run the game without using a NOCD crack or a 400 Mb patch?
And what about the right to do a backup copy (for personal use), in case of CD getting scratched?
And what about the games programmers who cannot even release a corrective patch easily because of the copy protection?
And what about their reputation? Is it not unfair that they get blamed for the problems added by the "protection"?
And what about YOU, mister the Editors? I can tell you that the reputation of UBISOFT is going way down in the heart of the players. You do not believe me? Just read your own forums!

Bugs happens in any program, this is pretty inevitable. That's why we do QA, that's why we have patches. On this forum, there was a very nice interaction between Larian and the players community. Larian programmers were using our remarks to get the game better. ANd what do we read now? Latest minute problem due to copy protection! ARGH!

You think the copy protection will increase sales?
NO WAY! To be honest, I am a fan, but I think I will first borrow the CD to a friend and test it before buying a copy myself. Do not want to be ripped off again.

And, while they go to the effort of re-recording the English voices, I learn from Focus (the editor) that they will not have French voices because of the translation cost. The previous game had French and Dutch, and this one will only have translated text??? Disappointing. Again, it seems to be a decision from the Editor, which is going to damage the reputation of Larian unfairly.

PLEAAASE! I BEG YOU: STOP PUTTING PROTECTIONS THAT HARM THE HONEST PLAYERS!

Yours,
Philippe Jacob (a disappointed and angry game buyer)

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points to this bag wind over here letting out a lot wind...sheesh.
Copy protection is a must for all software, game software(not console)
is actually pretty light on the copy protection compared to most software.
Example Emulator X by EMU has a protection where you must leave the cd in drive while using the program so it shows you have the legit cd for the program.
Pirating software is still a big problem in a lot of countries(just check the latest gaming developers guides to read all about the problems it causes)
so Protecting a game is a must. No matter what problems are caused the copyright work to ensure the protection of the developers hard work from nastey pirates that would warez the game...(you can't imagine all the legal jumbo that courts have on games and ownership and much much more)really is a must^_*
so chill.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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Well, for a start, be polite, mister/madam.

Then, do you like to pay 50 EUR for a game which cannot run?
Very recently, I bought:
- Broken Sword 3 (THQ)
- Farcry (UBISOFT)
- Beyond Good and Evil (UBISOFT)

All 3 of thems had problems installing or starting the game. And not just me: on the forums, there are *plenty* of people having the same trouble. Many are for reading the CD/DVD, because of copy protection. Farcry has a note inside the "readme" file (not even on the box) that the DVD simply cannot be read by such and such and such DVD brands. I gave 50 EUR and get nothing in return.
The shop will not give the money back because they think I *may* have done a copy at home and the CD works on *their* machine.
This has a name: theft. No matter what you say about piracy.
Do you like to give away money and not get anything in return?

But trust the pirates, they will have it cracked in a matter of days (hours sometimes), and only the honest players will be harmed. I was reading in a magazine that in some eastern countries, games are cracked and sold by pirates network, no matter the protection.

I buy up to 20 games per year, that is a lot of money. So, I do not deserve your insults, mister/madam. I am just frustrated about that tendency to care so little about the customer, i.e, us.

I have nothing against protection, but if it causes trouble to legitimate customer, it is another story!

The solution is better legal actions against pirates networks, not punishing honest players.

In this particular case (BD), I was sad to hear about the problems caused by the protection, because I really think the programmers have been doing a good job and I am a Divinity fan.

Still, wishing good luck to Larian with BD.

Best,
Philippe Jacob

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