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I just investigated Jahan on the web which led to a timeline (https://divinity.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline) that had something interesting in the notes. Apparently OS2 was supposed to be before BD but was changed at game launch to four years after. This brings up a question about the Divine's "sacrifice". Is this alluding to the dragon knight "killing" him and so the founding of the order of dragon hunters and was missed when the time line changed or did he "die" again? Bear in mind I have yet to finish Chapter 2 (I'd prefer to avoid being spoiled if that were the case).

PS for Vometia: I don't know if this makes any difference on your map making but there was a comment in game from the guy hiding in a fish barrel that he was traveling from Arx to Cyrene (or whatever they are called - the city in the north that I haven't made it to and the island or peninsula from OS1) and rested in Driftwood on the way.

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Originally Posted by caninelegion
Is this alluding to the dragon knight "killing" him and so the founding of the order of dragon hunters and was missed when the time line changed or did he "die" again?

Yes


There a lot of problems with continuity considering official timeline. For example it implies that Damian is back and already four years in Rivellon and doing absolutely nothing. Nether possible end of the world or God King threat doesn't concerns him.

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I just killed those notes off at the bottom of the article, its been on my radar for a while, but with so much to do you kind of have to focus on one bit at a time, especially when it is yourself and one other person on the wiki.

It was Raze who said on Steam that it would take place 4 years after Beyond Divinity, but the individual who added that note states that is no longer correct and the timeline has been changed again. Personally I would like an up to date official answer on when it takes place so we can straighten it out once and for all smile

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I just sounds like, ie, "sacrificed himself", that he more or less committed suicide in OS2 - it was "stabbed in the back" prior. Yeah, Larion does take a lot of artistic license with the time line. This has been discussed on and off for years. For once, I'd like to see a game company write an entire story then developed several games to fit it instead of continuing the story as we go and sometimes changing writers.

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See this fact sheet, for example, on the timing. An update during the Kickstarter said Damien would not be in the game since it was set before Beyond Divinity, but that was changed (or that part of the story developed more) before the release of the game, as was mentioned in the release announcement press release (that was in an older version of the press kit [which I downloaded at the time, but can not find now] but not in the current one). The exact date was set a year and a half before the game's release, and the plot for some time before then was that D:OS 2 happened after Beyond Divinity.
I have not heard of any changes after the release of the game.

Lucian faking his death before D:OS 2 is a separate event from the later case of him being captured by Damian (and presumed to be killed by a dragon knight) before Divinity 2.

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Originally Posted by Raze

Lucian faking his death before D:OS 2 is a separate event from the later case of him being captured by Damian (and presumed to be killed by a dragon knight) before Divinity 2.

But dragon knights weren't active during voidwoken invasion, so why would they bother to join and later "betray" Lucian later on?

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Originally Posted by caninelegion
I just sounds like, ie, "sacrificed himself", that he more or less committed suicide in OS2 - it was "stabbed in the back" prior.


Mayhap it is a case of one faked death followed by a back stabbing. There are quite a few years between the two games after all, so for both events to have happened (considering the deaths themselves are very different... after all he ended up in the Hall of Echoes in DKS).

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Originally Posted by Sakaratte
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Mayhap it is a case of one faked death followed by a back stabbing. There are quite a few years between the two games after all, so for both events to have happened (considering the deaths themselves are very different... after all he ended up in the Hall of Echoes in DKS).

Nope, that's doesn't make sense. Before Lucian faked his death, he was himself an expert in backstabing. He's stubbed in the back the elves, Ifan, divine order and even his own son, by setting him up as a scapegoat, so for "dragon knight" or even Damian wasn't possible to trap him in the Hall of Echoes.

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Originally Posted by Soccer

Nope, that's doesn't make sense. Before Lucian faked his death, he was himself an expert in backstabing. He's stubbed in the back the elves, Ifan, divine order and even his own son, by setting him up as a scapegoat, so for "dragon knight" or even Damian wasn't possible to trap him in the Hall of Echoes.


Even experts can be defied by experts. It wouldn't be the first time Damian has thwarted Lucian (as he wasn't meant to be able to escape through the rifts for a start). Lucian's entrapment happened around 8 years after DOS2, towards or at the end of the great war.

I'm not sure how it couldn't make sense based on your argument.

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Originally Posted by Sakaratte

Even experts can be defied by experts. It wouldn't be the first time Damian has thwarted Lucian (as he wasn't meant to be able to escape through the rifts for a start). Lucian's entrapment happened around 8 years after DOS2, towards or at the end of the great war.

I'm not sure how it couldn't make sense based on your argument.

Well, it's wasn't Damian's plan to escape Nemesis, but Asmodeus's, boy just "played" his part as a DK. Overall, Lucian maybe a real idiot, but Damian, considering what we saw from him in Divinity Dragon Knight Saga, just a complete moron, cartoonish villain. Story writing in Divinity II was the worst than in any other Larian game.

So yeah, in regards to the question of the thread author, Lucian double "death" is absolutely ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Soccer
But dragon knights weren't active during voidwoken invasion, so why would they bother to join and later "betray" Lucian later on?

It could very well have been their inaction during the events of D:OS 2 that helped convince them to take a side before Divinity 2. According to the Divinity 2 backstory, they joined rather late in the war and helped turn the tide against the Black Ring forces.
Also, just because dragon knights were not part of the D:OS 2 story doesn't mean they couldn't have been dealing with voidwoken in their own territories.

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If the winter dragon assault on the shriekers is any indication, the voidwoken were probably voided on dragon knight territories (if that were the case) rather easily. smile


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