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It'd be nice to go all the way up to +20 and explore new areas and get new races, subraces, subclasses, Arfificer and so on, and anything else one might find in a sequel. Thoughts?

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I mean I don't even need the game to be out to know I want a sequel. I mostly just want Larian to continue making great RPGs, so being someone who has faith that they'll nail BG3 makes it easy.

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I want a sequel in the same mold as BG2, which is to say, following the journey of our characters to a new location with nothing to do with the titular city. For the location: Sigil. BG4: stealth sequel to Planescape: Torment.

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I do. I'm pretty sure I'll like Larian's version of Baldur's gate but I also want an infinity engine like experience and that means the PoE engine. I want DOS engine BG3, PoE engine BG4.

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sure why not.

Not usually larians style but who knows.
id also like a NWN like situation where characters can be slotted into modules

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Frankly, for some reason, I assumed there will be a BG4 after this one. This is why I am indifferent about the level cap (I reckon this is just the first chapter of a story Larian is trying to tell in the Forgotten Realms univers). Could be just wishful thinking though.

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A sequel is a horrible idea for increasing the level cap honestly. I can sort of understand why in BG1-2 it happened, most people didn't know what was going on. But legitimately, it's really off putting to level your character at the start of BG2. Especially if you don't know what you're doing. You just get all these spells thrown at you, and you're like "What does any of this shit do?" I have to read now 6 pages of spells before having fun. Like it's just not a thing you want to do in this day and age.

An expansion (DLC installments) on the other hand would work A LOT better. Less time between the games. (Possibly just a year.) You can directly tie it into the story like BG2 did with Throne of Baal and not having to "start" the game with a high level character.

Also, if you respond to this with "I dont find it off putting to level up to level 8 in bg2" well, first off you need to understand the type of person it's going to annoy and that's the casual. Furthermore, if the level cap is 10 in this, then leveling HALFWAY through your levels for a casual is incredibly foreign for them.

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kind of comes from the fact that back in those days, a "new game" was more ackin to a stand alone expansion

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Originally Posted by Quiltsharts ^_^
A sequel is a horrible idea for increasing the level cap honestly. I can sort of understand why in BG1-2 it happened, most people didn't know what was going on. But legitimately, it's really off putting to level your character at the start of BG2. Especially if you don't know what you're doing. You just get all these spells thrown at you, and you're like "What does any of this shit do?" I have to read now 6 pages of spells before having fun. Like it's just not a thing you want to do in this day and age.

An expansion (DLC installments) on the other hand would work A LOT better. Less time between the games. (Possibly just a year.) You can directly tie it into the story like BG2 did with Throne of Baal and not having to "start" the game with a high level character.

Also, if you respond to this with "I dont find it off putting to level up to level 8 in bg2" well, first off you need to understand the type of person it's going to annoy and that's the casual. Furthermore, if the level cap is 10 in this, then leveling HALFWAY through your levels for a casual is incredibly foreign for them.


On the one hand, you make some good points. On the other, if you play BG2 without playing BG1 you are doing it wrong and it is your fault. I’ll consider this sentiment as carrying over to 3 and potentially 4.

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Originally Posted by Quiltsharts ^_^
A sequel is a horrible idea for increasing the level cap honestly. I can sort of understand why in BG1-2 it happened, most people didn't know what was going on. But legitimately, it's really off putting to level your character at the start of BG2.

I don't know about that, I played BG2 first - also first RPG in general. Most classes there don't have much depth to them so leveling up is straightforward. Picking spells can be intimidating, but again it doesn't really matter if you pick right or wrong - with wizard you will pretty quickly gather new spells so you can learn as you go along. Unless you picked someone like sorcerer for your first playthrough - that can end up bad.

Still, I think it is natural to create first character and scrap him after couple hours if you don't know the system. I know I had to do that with my assassin (first character). Attributes aren't really a choice in DnD and tried to spread things around a bit too much. And invest in charisma, because I liked my characters being likable to compensate for real-life-me. Little I know there was little to no benefit to it in BG2.

Overall I always recommend starting with BG2. It's a better pace game, with more variety, and 2nd edition higher levels are just more fun to play. I don't think leveling up is such a hurdle to get over, compared to character creation itself. I remember it being rather cool being offered that many spells from the get go.

EDIT: as to OP. I don't know. I didn't play the game, and most importantly I don't know what kind of story Larian is looking to tell. So far they have been doing fully contained narratives, so even if they were to continue in Forgotten Relms, would it be BG4 or NWN3 or Icewind Dale3?

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Originally Posted by spacehamster95
Frankly, for some reason, I assumed there will be a BG4 after this one. This is why I am indifferent about the level cap (I reckon this is just the first chapter of a story Larian is trying to tell in the Forgotten Realms univers). Could be just wishful thinking though.


I think it's entirely reasonable thinking.

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I'd prefer not to wait 3 years to advance my character. Yeah, BG did it, but it is a 20 yo game.
So if it was possible for the DLC (single or plural) to do this, it would be preferable.

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I assume that BG4 will be a thing.

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The original Baldur's Gate series and the Mass Effect series are my two favorite games series'. I enjoyed the games so much at least in part because of the increased emotional attachment to the characters and story gained over the span of several games. I know Larian has never released DLC, but hoping this will be the first instead of their customary Enhanced Edition. Then later on a Complete Edition. So...take my money please! smile

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- I think its way too early to speculate about BG4 when we know nothing about BG3 but 3 pre alpha videos.

- I played BG2 before BG1 and I had no problem with that. Playing BG1 first may help to understand some background info, but it is absolutely not needed for enjoying BG2. Main advantage of playing BG1 first is that your char is stronger because of the stat books, plus BG1 is a great game too.

- In the last interview they said the level cap is not set in stone.


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Originally Posted by Seraphael
The original Baldur's Gate series and the Mass Effect series are my two favorite games series'. I enjoyed the games so much at least in part because of the increased emotional attachment to the characters and story gained over the span of several games. I know Larian has never released DLC, but hoping this will be the first instead of their customary Enhanced Edition. Then later on a Complete Edition. So...take my money please! smile


Larian has released at least 4 DLCs for Divinity Original Sin 2 alone, including recently Armours of Rivellon or something like that.

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First I'd like to see the full BG3 experience, then 1 or 2 nice big expansions, however Larian don't really do that as much as I know.
Then I could also imagine a Divinity 3 with 1st or 3rd person view and mind reading again. laugh BG4 seems to be very far away for me, but I'm happy to play anything Larian releases.


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Originally Posted by Omegaphallic

Larian has released at least 4 DLCs for Divinity Original Sin 2 alone, including recently Armours of Rivellon or something like that.

That's rhetoric. The DLC you mention are relatively minor free updates or "gift bags" as Larian call them. By DLC I meant a huge expansion that cost money, but isn't strictly a new game on its own. Like Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal was an expansion pack to Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn back in the day. Specifically I hope for a DLC that tackles the ongoing adventures of the same band of companions level 11-20 (sort of BG3.5 rather than a new engine BG4). I would rather have Larian scale back on their SUPER customer friendly practices of improving and over-delivering on the same game long after initial polished release in preference of such an expansion DLC.

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the Armor thing is the only vagueley DLC sized extra content for OS2 tho

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Well, my hope is that Larian will get bored with D&D and go back to D:OS after this game.

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