Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General Clarification about italian language

Questo secondo me è quello che devono chiarire...per ora sono sempre rimasti fumosi riguardo al futuro (dopo il lancio del gioco)

I am a little doubtful. I understand that we have already received a negative (unfair) response on the Italian localization, but after all that has happened at least a more official response even from one of the superiors on what can be done to have the Italian localization would be welcome I would say.

There are people who have proposed kickstarter, we are willing to pay for this translation and here too a negative answer ... why? should we play it in english and then hope for a miracle?

What horrible news !!! Guys no, please.

Razer, you have an entire nation begging you for the translation of the Italian subtitles.

I'm reading many messages (too strong and offensive) dictated by frustration .. Please think again .. we deserve it, don't you think?

I have seen many people even willing to contribute financially with Kickstarter for the Italian translation .. We are willing to pay an additional cost to the game for this.

Please, on behalf of all Italians who do not write on the forum: allow us to fully enjoy your product..

We also like the final version of the game. But give us a confirmation and I'm sure we will wait with impatience and much gratitude ...

but are you serious? in addition to the game I also have to pay you to do it with subtitles because you developer doesn't care.

really guys I don't understand what world you live in.
that is, should we beg them to get paid for the translation?

Non merita nemmeno di essere acquistato altro che dargli fondi extra

Beh se son cosi barboni da chiedere soldi per la traduzione io 5 euro glieli do volentieri.
Il problema è che a quanto dicono loro non è una questione di soldi, ma allora qual'è la ragione ??

Ma infatti, quale diavolo è il motivo? Ok i discorsi di vendita ecc ecc ma decadono quando vien detto che non è un problema di soldi. Gli stiamo semplicemente sulle scatole? Mi sembra una ragione poco convincente.

Precisely why I ask him the reason for all this. Since they have turned down money, kickstarter ...
what do we have to do to be able to hope for a Italian translation?
or there is a reason behind such behavior.

Right now the issue has more to do with how many localisations we can manage at the same time.
If funding were the main issue, or demand for the localisation, then something like Kickstarter may be applicable, but not appropriate unless there is no other way to do it (that would be exploiting Italian fans).

This issue is being discussed, and hopefully there will be some news soon.


(traduzione di Google)
In questo momento il problema ha più a che fare con il numero di localizzazioni che possiamo gestire contemporaneamente.
Se il finanziamento fosse il problema principale, o la domanda per la localizzazione, allora qualcosa come Kickstarter potrebbe essere applicabile, ma non appropriato a meno che non ci sia altro modo per farlo (sarebbe sfruttare i fan italiani).

Questo problema è in fase di discussione e, si spera, ci saranno presto delle novità.

Please take us into consideration, we deserve it .. Don't deprive us of Baldur's Gate III

Thank you Raze. Pls do not leave us in a "limbo" for a long time

I see Raze snuck in ahead of me! But I think it's a worthy cent to throw in anyway.



For your convenience as it's become quite a few pages already, some of your concerns have actually already been addressed.

To summarize, it's not a matter of economic cost therefore Larian isn't expecting money of you for Italian localization. It'd be pretty strange if they did, wouldn't it 😁

As someone who's communicated with enough developers in the past, and had enough projects of my own, I could try to offer you my insights as to why Italian didn't make it through first pass. In short, I'd say it's more about the scope, how much you can aim to do vs the outcome. Localization is nice to have, but not a functional must for most entertainment media. English and French (Sometimes Spanish) usually makes its way into localisations in games from day 1, at least in text format, since it's such a high target audience potential and people often known at least one of those languages, even if it's not their native tongue. What ever you add beyond there, is extra cost in form of staff and time, where the efforts go in terms of workload.

In development, one of your main "expenses" is time spent > result gained. So in a development process, you want to spend your time as effectively and 'with the eyes on the ball' as much as possible. Therefore, lots of languages are often left to be added retroactively once the more important tasks are done and finished. If Larian were to add localization for a lot more languages before EA, that'd been broader scope, more staff to work on something else than the game, more workload on QA (Quality Assurance) to make sure that translations are correct, actually occurring properly in all the dialogue in game, etc.) - Naturally most QA probably doesn't speak Italian, so they'd need a specialist. That specialist would need to coordinate with a supervisor, which delays the effectiveness of that supervisor's other tasks. This would likely cause further development delays and September 30th would seem even more like a stretch.


With that, I can assure you that Larian does care a lot about all of its communities, and your passion hasn't gone unnoticed. I'd love to remind you that just because what ever the reasons are for needing to not include Italian in the first pass of localization, doesn't mean Larian doesn't want Italian language in their game. It's just a matter of priorities versus where time is spent, I think.

I know it's unfortunate and that it isn't perfect, but to answer your question about what you can do, I think just sharing your passion for the game and your feedback of really looking forward to an Italian translation goes a long way to show that you want something, so that they know it's an endeavour to look into as soon as it's more viable from a development point of view. ♥

I understand this likely isn't the answer you're hoping for, but I do hope it maybe helps in getting some idea to why things are the way they are.




The following is the same post, just Google translate into Italian. I'm not Italian unfortunately, so I don't know how to make my words sound really pretty when I speak without some help!
Quello che segue è lo stesso post, solo Google traduce in italiano. Sfortunatamente non sono italiano, quindi non so come far sembrare le mie parole davvero belle quando parlo senza aiuto!

ci hanno detto che il gioco non sara' in italiano nemmeno a fine release..... quindi dobbiamo aspettare circa 1 anno al day 1...... e sicuramente un altro anno per tradurlo!!
vogliamo l'italiano prima possibile appena e pronto anche prima del day 1.....

This is my first and last message here.
I will be honest, I never liked any of your games.
Childish and poor sense of humour, colourful and comic graphics, turn based combat system heavily focused on elements just like a random pokemon game.
For these reasons I was worried when I discovered that Larian was in charge to work on the third instalment of my favourite series of all time, but we are still talking about Baldur's Gate so I wanted to give Larian a chance, even though I didn't really liked what I saw so far during Vinke's gameplay sessions.
Now I acknowledge that italian will not be in the final release of the game, so I have no doubt what to do now.
I will keep playing with the first BG games again and again and I will be patiently waiting for a 4th instalment, hoping that a different and more serious software house will step forward, and especially that it keeps its word as opposed to Larian Studios.

Many thanks for your effort,
For most of us it would be enough to know that Italian will be in the game even if there will be some time to wait. This is the most important thing.

raze in altri post inerenti alle traduzioni in altre lingue spiega che sono le vendite la principale motivazione e penso lo sia anche per l'italia!! loro guardano dos (come vendite) ma sbagliano perche' non c'entrano nulla con baldur's gate!! larian dovrebbe comunicare con la wizards visto che in italia ce un bel rapporto di eventi su d&d!! detto questo e' stata gia' mandata una email alla wizards!! ciao

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With that, I can assure you that Larian does care a lot about all of its communities, and your passion hasn't gone unnoticed. I'd love to remind you that just because what ever the reasons are for needing to not include Italian in the first pass of localization, doesn't mean Larian doesn't want Italian language in their game. It's just a matter of priorities versus where time is spent, I think.


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Unfortunately, the facts show the opposite thesis. I believe our passion has been amply demonstrated after 2 translations given away by our community, if the "cost-benefit" ratio were really negative for them, they could still make the "effort" precisely in relation to the earnings received at no cost from the Italian translation of two Divinity.

The biggest mistake of the larian studios was to assume (without the slightest research about it) that the target of Baldur's Gate (and the universe of D&D) could be the same for all their previous titles, just think that Baldur's Gate 2 in Italy was even dubbed ... and obviously the other mistake was to hide the news of the non-dubbing underground, we know it by chance due to a question from a user who could not even arrive. (I use google translate sorry)

the problem was the firm's lack of honesty and communication.

We went from "absolutes yes" to no without anyone saying anything, plus the fact that they forgot the interview and consequently the Italian (and already here you say how can you forget) then nobody says anything and jump out almost by chance .....

if they had immediately said "maybe Italian will be implemented" no one would have been so angry.

giusto!! non puoi dire assolutamente si alla traduzione!! eravamo tutti tranquilli!! e poi da un mese dall'EA ci dici che il gioco non sara' localizzato nemmeno a fine gioco!!!

Sorry but I think they knew how a development process works even before going to 2019 E3 to release interviews to the press. I mean, it's pretty easy to promise something to raise the expectations of an entire community and then remove it without even giving notice. And we're not talking about a minor feature. Ok, you are free to do it, but this is what happens next. Not to say that their image gone below zero for me now.