Larian Studios Forums Beyond Divinity (English) Suggestions Death Knight Voice needs to be removed

Well I haven't commented myself on the - new - DK voice yet, because I wanted to actually play Beyond Divinity at least until Act 2, to get a decent amount of "dialogue" to judge from.

First off: I agree that, generally, people complain too much (I don't think anyone stated that here, but I'll say it anyways). It's like a plague or something, people always have something to b*tch about. And as if that's not bad enough, many of em prefer to do it in superlatives! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" /> What's wrong with some people's priorities? Maybe they don't have em?
I'm not directing this to anyone or anything said on this forum here - just thought I'd mention it. Maybe I wanna find out if I'm not the only one who's noticed that...

But enough complaining about complaining.

To get back to the quote: I disagree that this should be a lesson for the "complainers". With all respect for the people behind the scenes: the DK voice acting in the demo was bad. Yep, I neglected to add an "IMHO" to that statement and I even don't feel cocky about it! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> -- I honestly think it's that bad! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />. And with all respect for the extra effort of re-doing the voices: the DK voice acting in the release version is bad as well. Different, but equally bad.
I doubt any serious casting has been involved -- no way a performance like that would make it through any audition with a jury that takes itself seriously. Of course, many people will say: geez, it's just a game. All the same, the acting is still bad, and there's nothing wrong with pointing this out to the developers. Personally I think "it's just a game" is not the right attitude either, but that's not relevant. And the fact that this team doesn't have the budget doesn't magically make the performances *good*. It's an excuse, and maybe a justified one, but the point remains. Seeing I've made my point a dozen times in a few lines now, I'll stop making it over and over again <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> Maybe one last time, as a conclusion: the acting is bad!

So, do I personally mind the DK acting performance in beyond Divinity - Yes. Does it ruin my game experience? I guess I would've enjoyed it that tiny bit more if the acting was mind blowing, but for me personally it's not so difficult to ignore the minus' and focus on the aspects that make the game fun to me. So no, although I think the acting is horrible, my complaining will just stick to this one post and I will enjoy the rest of the game.

I DON'T endorse the way many big mouthed people like to complain, but criticising the voice acting - even after two efforts from the crew behind it - is in my opinion very much justified.

As a sidenote: I've mentioned it before, but it is my experience that the voice acting in many games is horrible. Some less than others, but good performances are pretty rare in my opinion.
Oh, and not just in games <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

One comment : I hate it when people charactirize other people and call them names in this forum (aka fangirl etc), when there are different opinions. Now maybe my English are not good but at least they are polite and I mind my manners. And this is a constant remark from me. Everybody has the right to express his/her opinion. Just do it in a civilized way please. Because you know, you may disturb the others. The forum is public but we are not alone in here. Thank you.
Lucretia

And forgive me for the <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" />

Some of the Death Knight's comments actually really made me laugh...
It somehow grew on me - Bring it on!!!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

Looking at the results of the poll, we can say that the 2 actors were as good (or as bad !)

What voice is better ???

Suggestion for Divinity 2 : Don't take professionnal actors for the voices.
Take forum members for recording the voices, specially those who are always complaining.

Why ?

First it would be less expensive.
Second no one will complain about the voices next time. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Barta

The Forummembers - Version has already been discussed in the German area ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

With no results - too difficult to implement ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Wonderful, Barta <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> - and they should be there in full RL and nick name - in very large letters on the first page of the manual <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devil.gif" alt="" /> - with mail address - so those who were lucky and didn't record, can send their complaints directly to the (un)lucky voice actor.
Kiya

*bored*
Well, I think that a great number of people here should be removed, but do I complain? No, I don't. I do not start treads, do not try to get petitions from the forum user nor I try to email the governement about it.

Now, what can you do if you don't like the DK's voice? Easy as pie! Take a long, hard needle. Insert it in one of your ears and push. Then repeat from the other side. It might hurt at first but you'll no longer heard the DK's voice.
If anyone tells you the same, remember where you heard it at first!

just to relivate the voices (I love the new voice)

Deam cast for voices.

Mike Myers as the DK (shagelisious baby)
Jim Carry as the lord of choas (My plan to rule the world fits like aaa gloooovvvvve)
Eddy Murfy as dwarf kind.
Patrick Stewart as voice over.
Samuel L Jackson as bada$$ paladin (get you *** down)
Justin Timberlake as dude that gets killed before speaking a word.
<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

Correction:
Justin Timberlake as the voice actor who gets killed before speaking a word.

I think it's just a matter of taste.

I like the new voice.
You don't like it? Well it's your opinion.
Point.

It's that simple.

So we could go on and on and always get to the same point:
Some people like it and others don't.

Is it really worth a 3-page long thread?

I think not.

Welcome <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

@Ghaleor, you're completely right - it's not worth a 3 page thread and definitely not all those other countless other threads made out of the DK's voice since the demo - but what shall some gamers do? Do you really want to deprive them of their favourite topic? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> It's become a sort of vocal-religion... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />
Kiya <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

Just the topic titles about how important/vital personal taste is for a game: <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />

What voice is better?
Voice gets better in the game
That, that voice! That's Kermit
Worst voice, I ever heard i, the game
I am so sorry I complained about the DK voice
Death Knight voice sample
A rolling rant and an honest plea
Thoughts about the Death Knight
Has larian commented at all on the Death Knight?
Mod to change DK's voice
Samples of new and improved Death Knight's voice
Cliche of a Death Knight's voice
The voice acting of in BD Demo is terrible

and those are just the threads - I'm not even counting opinions in other ones. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" />

There's no-one who could say we are not talkative ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />

Well, I cannot help note that this thread would not have ever reached three pages but for innumerable posts saying people who don't like a certain voice should just shut up;people saying if you personally can't do better, you should just shut up; etc.

If threads consisted solely of opinions, as against expression of why people have no right to opinions and those disagreeing with them, the threads would be a lot shorter.

Now this may come as a shock to some of you, but people who have an opinion that something damages the game will express that opinion--and neither others saying we have heard this opinion before or those saying "shut up we don't want to hear you" will stop them.

Personally, I find the DK voice painfully bad, and wish Larian to know that. But I am pefectly open to contrary opiniuons. I am not very open however to the opinion that anyone who doesn't love it, or can't do better themselves should shut up and go away.

Now frankly, so far I really love this game on the whole. I read opinion after opinion that it is a PoS because it is too linear. I might express a contrary opinion from time to time, but I do not go around saying anyone wants a more non-linear game should shut up; or that that I will yell "la, la, la, I can't hear you", until they write a better game.

I would ask the same of those who cannot understand the objections to the DK voice. I am am completely willing to accept contrary opinions. I am not willing to accept the idea that if I don't like something I should shut up.

Tiffin, it's not WHAT you say, but HOW you say. You said you don't like the voice. I would undertand you, since I, myself, am not crazy about it, but it's alright, in my opinion. I never bother for voices in RPG games (except Magnus in Arcanum, Pink in V:TM Redemption and Minsk in Baldur's Gate 2) because I tend to read the dialogue. Nevertheless, some immature scum here, tend to post something like this:
"Hey yo lrin ***** da DKz voce iz ******* ****** ******* ******* ****** i eva herd inna RPG gm u ********* ***** **** ******" etc.
I know many people like the game and many people don't. It's not a reason for the latter to come here and endlessly whine/trash the product and ruin it for the people who actually like it. That's all I am saying. We know that many people aren't satisfied with the Deathknight's voice, but the product is already shipped, patched, bought by many, and there is nothing Larian can do.

Wonderful, Barta - and they should be there in full RL and nick name - in very large letters on the first page of the manual - with mail address - so those who were lucky and didn't record, can send their complaints directly to the (un)lucky voice actor.
Kiya
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and I play the main characterz! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

Tiffin, it's not about shutting up - but if you read my list with all those topic titles about the voice => would you still say, this large amount is merely a matter of opinion? Or could you understand my opinion about over-exaggeration of one game aspect?
And therefore => could you understand gamers who probably read a few/all of those topics and therefore react gruffly?

I recall one theme in DD - yes, I'm going to repeat the no-no word: Multiplayer - where countless threads were opened in the old forum and lead to fed-up reactions afterwards.

BD was released with a voice - a voice that was changed due to gamer protests - ok, that's it. I doubt it will be changed. But I dread this: Div2 with voice acting and the reactions afterwards => guess, it will be the same as now, cause voice is a matter of taste. Taste! Not religion. So, can you understand my reaction of being amused about this storm in a waterglass?
Kiya

And if you can't understand my distance about this fruitless commotion as the game was released like this => personally, I don't like voice-acting, because my "voice imagination" is better than being presented with a fix one. I can tell you what disturbed me in the demo: American accent. Surprised? Well, I can explain => I was brought up with British fantasy books, so fantasy has a British accent for me, not an American. If I read, I "hear" the British way of the DK saying something in an arrogant, snub, dry way - and so I delve into the game. The American way with guttural "l" and "r" is not the way I "hear" fantasy, this distracts me - is not fitting => ONLY for myself, because of my bringing up, you see?

So, you can guess, that I prefer books over movies as well, because my inner imagination is better for me than a presented fix one.

I disagree -- it is partly. Although to many people acting performances is entirely about taste, which is usually the problem: taste -> emotions.
But I believe it's perfectly possible to judge a performance objectively, and still not have it interfere with "like" or "dislike". Personally I have a few actors of which I realise their acting skills aren't too great, yet I just enjoy watching them play.
When I talked about criticism <-> complaining in my previous post, this is what I meant: objectivity <-> subjectivity.
Not that this is really very relevant to the subject at hand, but I thought I'd mention it anyways <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

The thing that disturbs me is

A) une mass of people saying THE DEMO VOICE IS SOOO BAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!

B) after the change une mass of people saying THE GAME VOICE IS SOOO BAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!


That's what disturbs me ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/exclamation.gif" alt="" />

Well, Kej - taste IS subjectivity par excellence, or not? And the way some gamers voiced their subjectivity up to a "pseudo-objectivity" aggravates me - and the intolerant/aggressive way of expressing it in some cases. I can simply state my opinion or try to cram it down people's throats - result? Closed ears, no civilised discussion (as I understand it).
Kiya