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apprentice
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Joined: Oct 2020
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Sorry for the strange title.
This question is for those who were part of the DOS2 Early Access. How much change to the game occurred from the start of EA to the full release? Of course, bug patches and maybe some UI changes will occur, but I'm curious about substantive gameplay changes. I'm really enjoying BG3 so far, and I'd like to know how much change we could realistically expect to occur.
For example, lots of people seem to dislike the firebolt cantrip's fire surface effect. Did Larian make any substantive changes to core mechanics during the DOS2 EA? Would removing the fire surface effect be something, based on precedent, that they might do? Are some complaints a waste of time?
For the record: I like the burning effect of firebolt, but dislike how it creates an automatic fire surface as it it's a bit overkill IMHO. However, I'm merely using it as a hypothetical. Thanks.
Last edited by dwheresmymana; 12/10/20 08:42 AM. Reason: typo
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I'll be the first to respond to this and then create another post emphasizing this. Is it possible that the D&D edition is going to change? After 90+ hours of playing I find that character leveling is well basic, wizards aren't any different than sorcerers, and there are more limitations on how many active spells available at one time. I don't disagree with the firebolt cantrip though I'm not used to 5e rules. I disagree with the entire edition change for both spells, and especially character choices. 2e, 3e, 3.5e are all better for a video gaming atmosphere in my opinion than 5e. There is much more customization in leveling. 5e seems to be so basic it's like asking my 5 year old between two choices instead of 5, obviously overwhelming for a 5 year when you ask he/she spaghetti, alfredo, steak, hamburger, or hotdog. He/She may get confused with so many choices, but we are all adults here hopefully, I want choices and customizing.
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I'll be the first to respond to this and then create another post emphasizing this. Is it possible that the D&D edition is going to change? After 90+ hours of playing I find that character leveling is well basic, wizards aren't any different than sorcerers, and there are more limitations on how many active spells available at one time. I don't disagree with the firebolt cantrip though I'm not used to 5e rules. I disagree with the entire edition change for both spells, and especially character choices. 2e, 3e, 3.5e are all better for a video gaming atmosphere in my opinion than 5e. There is much more customization in leveling. 5e seems to be so basic it's like asking my 5 year old between two choices instead of 5, obviously overwhelming for a 5 year when you ask he/she spaghetti, alfredo, steak, hamburger, or hotdog. He/She may get confused with so many choices, but we are all adults here hopefully, I want choices and customizing. This. I loved the edition used in NWN2, 5e is making me sad 
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I'll be the first to respond to this and then create another post emphasizing this. Is it possible that the D&D edition is going to change? After 90+ hours of playing I find that character leveling is well basic, wizards aren't any different than sorcerers, and there are more limitations on how many active spells available at one time. I don't disagree with the firebolt cantrip though I'm not used to 5e rules. I disagree with the entire edition change for both spells, and especially character choices. 2e, 3e, 3.5e are all better for a video gaming atmosphere in my opinion than 5e. There is much more customization in leveling. 5e seems to be so basic it's like asking my 5 year old between two choices instead of 5, obviously overwhelming for a 5 year when you ask he/she spaghetti, alfredo, steak, hamburger, or hotdog. He/She may get confused with so many choices, but we are all adults here hopefully, I want choices and customizing. Not gonna happen as 5E is the most popular D&D edition ever.
Last edited by Dark_Ansem; 12/10/20 01:45 PM.
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I'll be the first to respond to this and then create another post emphasizing this. Is it possible that the D&D edition is going to change? After 90+ hours of playing I find that character leveling is well basic, wizards aren't any different than sorcerers, and there are more limitations on how many active spells available at one time. Unlikely. There will be multiclassing though, which might make things more interesting. I am curious how I will respond to 5e once I get the chance to played. Back in a day I found 2nd edition a perfect fit for party based RPG - some choice, but not overwhelming when managing multiple characters. My initial impression of 3rd ed. was very negative - I found amount of stuff quite overwhelming (though I think a big part of it was poor UI design). In recent years, I became more and more fond of more complex builds. 3rd or Pathfinder still might be a bit too much, but just a little bit. PoEs hit a sweet-spot for me, I think. A decent amount of choice, but streamlined and generalized enough, as to not make a management of a party a pain.
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apprentice
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Joined: Oct 2020
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I DM for 5E for tabletop and through Roll20. I''ve been playing 5E for about 3 years now, and I personally love it. Sorcerers and Wizards are quite different actually, but I don't want to go into the differences between them since sorcerers aren't yet available in EA-and it's off topic. The Firebolt change was done by Larian. They modified it from the 5E version. This EA is only scratching the surface of 5E. there are races, spells, classes and subclasses not available yet--a plethora really. The cleric has 7 domain choices in the player's handbook and 5+ more in the other canon expansions, as well as numerous more UA and homebrew domain subclasses, for example.
My original question was about how different the release version might look compared to the present version, based on Larian's history. That's why I wish to compare the process to the EA for DOSII.
Last edited by dwheresmymana; 12/10/20 01:19 PM.
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