Larian Studios Forums Beyond Divinity (English) Help/Tips/Tricks Finally!!! Victory in the final battle

After many tries I finally killed Damian. I will include a spoiler on the strategy I used. I really like this game a lot, but this final battle had me drooling all over myself, making up new cuss words, and yelling at my dog.

If you don't want to be spoiled on the battle do not read the spoiler.

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'> First off, there is one summoned creature that seems WAAAY out of balance with the rest of the creatures in this battle. It is the Necromancer, and he seems even higher level than Damian, because he WILL insta-kill you with his spells. Here is what I finally did:

1. Prep: I de-trained my 1-H melee with shield skill and re-trained in 2-H Slashing. I switched from a sword to a Demon's Cutter 2-H Axe. I unloaded everything from my inventory except potions (but due to the weight bug I was still encumbered... a big hinderance in this battle.

2. The Battle: I concentrated mostly on Damian, but took out certain summoned creatures (Mummy-looking Spider, Earth Elemental, Chaos Monster, Shadow Demons (2), Black Bishops (2),and Skeleton Mage. I also Saved the game during the battle when Damian was 1/2, 1/4, and about 1/8 life).

3. The Necromancer: The Necromancer insta-killed me every time... I could be full health and any spell he threw at me was insta-death. So my goal was to neutralize him. There was one way I found to do this: There is one tree very close to where you are fighting Damian. When the Necromancer moved away from me to his spell casting range I maneuvered so that the tree was between me and him. Then all of his insta-death spells only blasted the tree and not me.

4. Final: With the Necromancer isolated from casting insta-death, the battle was still tough, but finally Damian went down. I just stayed focused on him and ignored the rest of the summoned minions. I used probably 80 medium healing potions during the battle.

My stats for the battle: Level 31 / Str 70 / Agility 50 / Con 35 / Int 13 / Survival 36 / Speed 20 / Armor Factor 45 / Damage 195-311

IMHO the Necromancer needs to be tweeked down a bit. </span>

How many summoned creatures did you have around to occupy your opponents?

None if you mean the summoning dolls. I tried them a couple times and they die very fast, do no real damage, and just add to the confusion with all of the other summoned creatures around you.

It was for me verry easy.

<span class='standouttext'>Spoiler : </span><span class='spoiler'>
First I started with a 2 h sword with lots of slash and crush damage. No good
When you use a NON ranged weapon like AXE or SWORD or a CLUB He will summon ppl. I tried using an crossbow with all level to the max NO GOOD. I had 3 dolls but they are with 1 hit dead.

How did I do it ? I got all level 5 focused missil (earth, water , fire ,... ) + sharman meteorite ( lv 10 ). That is it. Went in he started to hit me and I used the spels. they did both a good job.doing +/- 1/20 damage every hit. Didn't even used another weapon. He didn't summond 1 ppl.
Yes I used alot of potions +/- 40 ( blue and red )( I only had 420 magic <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" /> )

Magic is the way to kill him.
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Congrats SIE <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

It does seem that magic is the way to go for that battle, and if you see his stats you will see why melee is probably the worst way to tackle him.

I'm surprised he didnt' summon anything when you hit him with magic. Obviously, I'm not faulting you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> It just seems like bad combat scripting. If he's going to get hit by ranged or melee weapons, he summons opponents, so there's no good reason for him to hold off if he's hit by the magical equivalent of the Millenium Dome (and don't we wish it was dropped in a fantasy world, too!).

No, sorry, he doesn't summon with ranged weapons or magic - only melee.

Then he's obstinate and annoying, and it's a good thing he's dead, too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

But, I'm still looking for a method to kill him with arrows - I use the sneak mode with hit&run - he regenerates a bit too soon for my taste. As he took bone damage quite nicely (hammer spell) - I'm going to experiment with proficiency for that sector. It should be possible to kill him without magic.
Kiya <stubborn>

arf
why not set spoiler in yer title
now i saw name of final boss <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

I made the right choice by going Mage then! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I hammered him with Elemental Blast and guzzled a ton of potions until he died <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Well, you can imagine how much I used => started off with arrows and stunned him

http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/act4screens/Final60.jpg

continued with arrows/stunning

http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/act4screens/Final20.jpg

lost patience and...

http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/act4screens/Final70.jpg

it was tedious in this mixture - and I had even less success in sneak mode in hitting him with arrows (though needed only a few vitality potions in this. Was only puny lvl 30 though. Watching the pics from start to end => you can see how many potions I took. I required far less by only using magic.

Sorry if you saw something too soon, but it should not have been a spoiler. In the very first conversation you have in the game you know that there is someone above Samuel:

DK: "...we have to escape from Damian's prison universe".
Hero: "Who is Damian?"

I for one, had actually figured out what was going on at this point, not clearly, but generally.

Once again, there was no intent to reveal anything that had not already been revealed in the game, ergo the warning and the use of the Spoiler function.

Zhe big boss and his stats =>

http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/act4screens/Finalbosstats0.jpg

tried this combo => melee + hammer spell at lvl 5

http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/act4screens/Finalmeleeend0.jpg

Is this the Necro giving you the creeps, Grim? Or was he someone else? How did he attack? With acid rain?

http://www.kiya1.de/beyond/act4screens/Finalsumm2bis0.jpg

My tactic this time => I ignored his minions and stunned him, then I hit him with the sword - my hammer spell killed his critters automatically, except the Bishop, but he only use magic 2x and then kept on using his tiny little fists.

I think, his minions are random - cause I recall a Black Spider in a former try (thought at that time, crushing was safe - wasn't, so I reloaded at once).

No Kiya, not the 2 Black Bishops that are summoned... it is named "Necromancer" and attacks mostly with Fireball and other missile attacks. The Black Bishops are worth taking out as soon as possible though. The Necromancer is summoned when he is about 1/2 health, it will run away to a casting distance and unleash attacks that were ALWAYS instant-death to me.

There are also 2 Warlocks, but I just ignored them.

Wow, Kiya! I think you used more potions than I did! My 'Fearsome Spell Of Death' (All four elements on lvl 6 - massive mana drain but massive damage) did some serious splatting!

I bet I used more Mana potions than you did though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Ok, then his minions are random - sorry, Grim. I just had the 4 I mentioned - do you want me to try again? I think stunning Mr X hindered him in summoning more... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />
Kiya

I'm getting used to zhe big boss .... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />

lol, you don't have to do that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> However, the Necromancer always appeared at about the same time. Seems like there was not much randomness in the summoning... I seemed to always get the same creatures in a specific order on each of my many tries. I would like to kill it myself to check it's stats, but being totally encumbered and the distance it stays from me I cannot get to it to kill it.

btw, what screen capture program do you use?

PSP 8 => Paintshop Pro 8 - but I only use this for snapshot function (is too complicated for me). I convert/cut with CompuPic.

Ok, my tries so far:
Magical sword => Shadow creature, Chaos Creature, Tibar
Raanaar 2-hander sword => Shadow, Earth Elemental, Chaos
Raanaar 2-hammer => Black Spider, Black Bishop
2-hander axe => Warlock (sheesh, I had no armour/weapon, only spell, when he was dead, I had all again), Lizard King, Tibar

No, Necro - maybe, because I'm playing on easy?

The easy setting may make a difference. The summons I got were in this general order:

Skeleton Mage
Shadow Creature
Mummy-like Spider
Chaos Creature
Shadow Creature
Black Bishop
Earth Elemental
Warlock
Black Bishop
Necromancer <---
Warlock

and a few more, maybe another Shadow Creature and Chaos Creature and such

I could send you my save just before entering the rift if you are curious