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#707658 19/10/20 10:59 PM
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1. The Brothers:

I tried using nothing but the "knock unconcious" ability and checked nobody had a buff or possible item proc that might kill them.

Despite this, it was really hard to not have one of them die, so I replayed this a ton of times.

The one time I did manage it, the game still treated it as though they'd been killed rather than knocked out. This leaves me wondering why Knock Unconcious is even there =(


2. I've fought ethel down to surrender several times now, and saved right before she surrenders. I very much want ShadowHeart to talk to her, but I can't find a way to make that happen other than deliberately killing off my other party members, even using the Character Select does not switch for me,


3. Having looked at multiple other threads I saw repeated mention of the "wand", which I found, but I couldn't seem to find any way to invoke it around Mayrina. I checked a few walkthroughs and they describe options I'm not seeing, such as giving the wand to Mayrina. The closest I've gotten was having the argument with her, she storms off, meeting her at his grave (where she won't speak to me) and rezzing connor. She freaks out and runs off.

Is this because one of the brothers died?

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When you leave the Hag's workshop, you speak to Mayrina and you can raise Connor. You then have the choice to keep the wand yourself, or hand it over to her.
Killing her brothers doesn't mean she dislikes you, they die to Ethel's traps in the swamp if you do not kill them.
The main thing with Mayrina is either snapping the wand in half, raising Connor and giving her the wand, or raising Connor and keeping the wand yourself.

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Originally Posted by FatePeddler
When you leave the Hag's workshop, you speak to Mayrina and you can raise Connor. You then have the choice to keep the wand yourself, or hand it over to her.
Killing her brothers doesn't mean she dislikes you, they die to Ethel's traps in the swamp if you do not kill them.
The main thing with Mayrina is either snapping the wand in half, raising Connor and giving her the wand, or raising Connor and keeping the wand yourself.


Giving it / him over results in a "see you in baldurs gate!" response. Which, I am excited to see how that train wreck plays out haha


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Man that lady was having a rough night, to the point of making that deal. Made me sad.


Still kept her husband tho

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that quest buged out on me...
rescued mayrina but can't enter dialog
looked all over the hags lair didn't find her

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Originally Posted by nizanegusa
that quest buged out on me...
rescued mayrina but can't enter dialog
looked all over the hags lair didn't find her


use the teleporter at the back of her lair / go out the back door (locked) of the hut and there is a coffin and she'll be mourning there.


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Bugged out on me too. I called in Lump to help with the fight, and he bugged the end of the encounter. I had to kill Lump and gang to get Maryiana out of combat. Then once I talked to her and got her to go outside by her corpse husband, I couldn't pursue any further conversation. Raising connor just made the zombie attack. No other options.

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Originally Posted by FatePeddler
When you leave the Hag's workshop, you speak to Mayrina and you can raise Connor. You then have the choice to keep the wand yourself, or hand it over to her.
Killing her brothers doesn't mean she dislikes you, they die to Ethel's traps in the swamp if you do not kill them.
The main thing with Mayrina is either snapping the wand in half, raising Connor and giving her the wand, or raising Connor and keeping the wand yourself.


(I think we're far enough down to not need spoilers now?)

Path 1:
. persuade the hag to give me the "both" option;
. loot the workshop;
. talk to Mayrina
-> No options regarding the wand,
. use the teleport or run to the graveyard,
-> Mayrina is either absent or cannot be talked to,

Path 2:
. persuade the hag to give me the "both" option;
. talk to Mayrina,
-> get same dialog options as #1,
. use the teleport or run to the graveyard,
-> Mayrina is either absent or cannot be talked to,


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Originally Posted by nizanegusa
that quest buged out on me...
rescued mayrina but can't enter dialog
looked all over the hags lair didn't find her


use the teleporter at the back of her lair / go out the back door (locked) of the hut and there is a coffin and she'll be mourning there.


She's there, but I can't talk to her. All I can do is rez connor and have her run away.


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Also, fwiw: I didn't put the fire out, I just used a very long jump to use the orb to lower the platform, and was able to get the hag down to 9 health without going into the second phase of cloning.

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I worked my way back thru saves, and I was able to unstick this quest.


- Lae'zal jumps to the control orb and lowers the cage 2 turns before it collapses,
- Mayrina leaves the cage 1 turn before it collapses,
- Hag dies before cloning Mayrina, same turn the cage collapses,
* Mayrina is still standing on the ramp to the cage
- Loot the workshop after killing the hag, before speaking to Mayrina,
+ Select Shadowheart,
- Use the portal,
- Talk to Mayrina


Without the '+' item, it still didn't work, but going back to my previous saves it still didn't work, so the '*' item might be the decider here or something, but I'm done with this quest at this point, thanks smile


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