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It's strange how Wizards can learn spells from the Cleric spell list. All the DnD rules I remember Wizards have never been able to add spells from the Cleric spells to their book to cast. Is this an oversite that should be corrected or are wizards going to always be able to add cleric spells to their book to allow them to cast Cleric spells also? for example, you can have Gale learn cure wounds clearly a Cleric spell. Please post what you think. Is this option a little overpowering and take away from having a Cleric?

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It does take away from needing a cleric, but the good news is that I think this is just a bug that the devs haven't gotten to yet.

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It's apparently a glitch. Last I heard, they've removed the ability from Gale, (though haven't actually tested), but PCs still have it. My assumption is it's because not all tags are placed yet on all items. In any case, this feels like a low priority fix.

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That good to hear. Yah low priority is fine it not that big of an issue just odd and I was wondering about the issue. Thank you for your reply.

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It's a bug. I think it's unfortunate that it's just a bug; 5E is the only edition that has spellcasting where Wizards can't learn every spell. I'd love to see it actually be the direction the game takes for Wizards. But it's just a bug, and will be patched out at some point.

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Originally Posted by Thrythlind
It's apparently a glitch. Last I heard, they've removed the ability from Gale, (though haven't actually tested), but PCs still have it. My assumption is it's because not all tags are placed yet on all items. In any case, this feels like a low priority fix.



Gale still learns spells on my game. Nothing has changed


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They can learn then but dont think they can cast them right?

Or rather the few times I tried casting cleric spells my wiz was unable to do so

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I have been able to learn and cast healing word, guiding bolt, and cure wounds with Gale. I accidentally killed shadowheart when I met her and just didn't feel like putting up with her mouth (she is sooooo snarky!) so I was like - frick it - I don't need no cleric. Then I realized Gale can learn cleric spells and was like - oh! well....thats wonderful!

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Originally Posted by Zer0
It's a bug. I think it's unfortunate that it's just a bug; 5E is the only edition that has spellcasting where Wizards can't learn every spell. I'd love to see it actually be the direction the game takes for Wizards. But it's just a bug, and will be patched out at some point.


Wait. Could wizards learn divine spells in 3e and 3.5?

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I'm currently operating under the assumption that it's a bug, not a feature.

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It's a bug. I think it's unfortunate that it's just a bug; 5E is the only edition that has spellcasting where Wizards can't learn every spell. I'd love to see it actually be the direction the game takes for Wizards. But it's just a bug, and will be patched out at some point.


Wait. Could wizards learn divine spells in 3e and 3.5?


Yes, though a lot of people didn't realise it. In 3e/3.5, a Wizard could scribe any spell into their spellbook if they found a written copy and made an appropriate Spellcraft check. They could only choose from the Wizard/Sorcerer list for spells they learn on levelling up, but otherwise they could learn spells from any list as long as they found a scroll or something. In previous editions, Wizards could simply "research" new spells, and any spell that already existed was automatically allowed, regardless of whether or not it was a Wizard spell. 4E didn't actually have spells; all abilities were directly a result of class features. 5E was the edition that took away the ability for Wizards to learn non-Wizard spells.

It's honestly not a big deal; with a few exceptions, the Wizard spell list is superior to every other spell list. But it is a neat thing that Wizards have always had that they don't anymore, and it makes me a bit sad.


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