Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback For real though, ONLY Waterdhavian cheese? No one has fewer friends than the man with ONE cheese.

Where are all the cheese varieties? There are 99 kinds of fruits and 99 kinds of meats, but we stuck with just Waterdhavian on the cheese front. This is really subpar, and frankly, a bit of a disappointment considering Larian's reputation for cheesemonger representation. Push this to the top of the priority list, all those "bug fixes" and "crash fixes" and "critical error fixes" can wait.

The game is broken. Either give us brie in the next patch or I'm demanding a refund. Totally unplayable.

Finally, someone brings up the real issues.

How am I supposed to roleplay a Guild Artisan cheese maker like this?

For those of you who don't know, here are all the missing cheese:
- Arabellan Cheddar
- Askata
- Chessentan lotus cheese
- Damarite Red
- Elturian Grey
- Farmer's Cheese
- Green Calishite
- Lurien Spring Cheese
- Mist Cheese
- Nut Cheese
- Pepper Cheese
- Sjorl
- Turmish Brick
- Vihon Blanc
- Vilksmaarg
- Yak Butter

And of course the best cheese: Death Cheese.

I don't think we can get away with just adding new types of cheese to the game. We need the implementation of a full-fledged crafting system for making cheese, and quests on this topic. We can buy a cow from tieflings, milk it, and then ... the whole process is like in real life.
The game has already implemented various herbs that we can buy from the witch in the swamp. Depending on what kind of grass the cow ate, this will affect the resulting cheese.

Oh yeah, feeding cows different kinds of grass and hay for different cheeses is a brilliant idea. That's what I want out of Baldur's Gate 3.

I'm waiting for poppy-seed crackers and Branston pickle before I eat my cheese.

Oh, how about wine then? I haven't looked into the matter more closely before regarding available beverages but now that you brought up the subject, we can't really discuss cheese with having only a sub-par wine selection in game.

Everyone knows you can simply not enjoy Green Calishite without a proper bottle of Tethyrian tanagluth. Preferably from 1368 DR. I guess Saerloonian Topaz could also work if you don't really like red wine.

Came here to give props to the OP - definitely need a wheel of the good stuff!

The real question is if the cheese variants will be a 1:1 representation of D&D rules in the light of changes applied due to Baldur's Gate influence in the light of a XXI century global economical crisis.

And don't forget to give an advantage to halflings when they try to identify cheese.

To be fair, including all these cheeses would be difficult and not necessarily accurate. Yak Butter, Vihon Blanc, Turmish Brick, Sjorl, Green Calishite, Damarite Red, Chessentan lotus cheese, Askata would probably be uncommon to find along the Sword Coast. And then you have toss ups like Pepper Cheese and Nut Cheese and Mist Cheese which you might find in adjacent regions and could conceivably show up. And Arabellan Cheddar is said to travel well so.. maybe (also it is implied that there are other forms of cheddar but none are listed so maybe there is more cheese)? Not to forget that Elves may refer to Mist Cheese differently than other races; and there is also a high probability that Githyanki and other outsiders would've possibly heard of Death Cheese if they went to Sigil (where Death Cheese is imported to Imel's Happy Tongue tavern in the Market District). And Lurien Spring Cheese has addictive and hallucinogenic effects on Halflings (Larian will have fun implementing that).

Although, the exclusion of Elturel Grey cheese is a little odd as it is one of the local cheeses to the region and Vilksmaarg is said to be popular in the Sword Coast.

Oh and canonically the source for many of these cheeses is 100 years old; so the cheeses might have evolved or shifted over that time. Especially with the Dragonborn being late arrivals to Faerun who may have their own styles of cheese.

Basically what I'm saying is that cheese is one of the primary cultural characteristics of the Forgotten Realms and really all of D&D lore. It's one of the few cultural products that is traded and exchanged across the multiverse. D&D lore is really just an exhaustive explanation D&D cheeses.

P.S. I will say that this is really a cursory look at the cheese. I should really dig deeper and get some more primary sources. And I don't know if Ed Greenwood has tweeted anything because that technically might be cannon (they wrote the contract before twitter, its a big mess, luckily he's good about leaving the door open and the time skip kind of smooths it all over maybe).

P.S.S. I know there is Rothé Cheese as well (esp. in the Underdark) but I already said I wasn't digging deep enough.

Epic first post! Welcome to the forum.

I have a feeling that they are not unaware of this shameful state of affairs. Why else would there be "Why isn't there more cheese?" in the forum description? They were practically begging for someone to speak up on this crucial matter.

Cheeses of note in the realms include something known as "Luiren spring cheese"... and that is one you shouldn't be trying to give to your halflings in particular, unless you have darkly sinister motives... it's an unremarkable cheese for anyone else, but it's functionally a date-rape substance, as well as being highly addictive, to halflings... it's used heavily within the halfling slave trade industry, especially in Calimshan. Kinda dark subject matter, but fascinating at the same time, for the fact that that kind of thing was actually officially written about.

Wow, I hate the fact that "halfling slave trade industry" is a thing.

The realms contain a lot of dark and gritty stuff in their deeper background lore. It's rarely focused on, but, as much as this may be contrary to current social opinion, I like that the darker stuff *Does* exist and is there... I think it *should* be there. I tend to enjoy story-serious games, and the darker material gives players something they can really unify against without moral worry. People who don't want to deal with it, obviously don't have to put it in their game, of course, or ever even address it; every DM's world is a little different after all, and I'm sure there's a lot of players who would rather play in a world where those things don't exist at all. I think though, as a resource for DM's toolkits, it's good that it's there, tucked mostly out of sight, most of the time.

Yeah I can agree with all of this. I like to occasionally touch on darker elements of society when I DM. I would do it more, but most people find it disturbing. And you also need players who are going to handle the subject manner maturely.