Right now I tried to deceive Minthara in clouding my thoughts on where the Grove was. Well, I passed all the rolls. And then she just told me to come back when I've cleared my mind. I went to the Grove to see if I could talk to anybody about it but there was nothing. So I went back to her and she wondered if my mind was cleared and that I would tell her where it was. I showed it on the map and apparently now that results in her knowing the exact location of the Grove anyways. Is there no way to deceive her in reality? like sending her somewhere else? I thought by showing her wrong places when she probed my mind, she'd go to a different place and disappear forever or something.