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I just had a quick story-related question, in the hopes that I wouldn't have to play through the whole of act 1 with a new character to do my own research.
Is The Absolute's gender dependent on something? When looking up its article on the Forgotten Realms wiki, I see that it's listed as 'male and/or female', but I've only ever heard it referred to as a Goddess/by female pronouns. I should point out that I tend to play female characters, so I haven't had a chance to test it with a male one.
I was wondering if it was connected to the gender of the player character, or perhaps the dream entity (although for my current run I'm using a male entity, and goblins still refer to the Absolute as female). If not, is there a point where it's referred to as male? I haven't encountered that yet. Just curious.
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From what I understand, if you side with the goblins, some of them describe the Absolute as a 'he'. So it seems likely the Absolute's gender is fluid.
“But his mind saw nothing of all this. His mind was engaged in a warfare of the gods. His mind paced outwards over no-man's-land, over the fields of the slain, paced to the rhythm of the blood's red bugles. To be alone and evil! To be a god at bay. What was more absolute?”
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Is the Absolute a "new God(dess)" or an old one with a new face
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It seems that the Absolute is whatever the host wants it to be. Goblins stopped worshipping Maglubiyet (who, in spite of being a cruel and bloodthirsty deity, still enforced at least some kind of discipline among them) and switched to Absolute that played along their every whim and kept feeding them ideas of gobbo supremacy. Even the caged Maglubiyet worshipper said that goblins shouldn't be enabled that much, it will destroy them. Also, the Absolute made drow turn their back on Lolth, which is a pretty big deal because one doesn't simply reject the Bitch Queen. So, I think, it's a sexlesss, genderless and endlessly manipulative entity.
Last edited by Madame Killkoy; 26/01/21 11:18 AM.
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My theory is that the Absolute is Bhaal. Because everything dies -- Death is Absolute.
Edit: Anyway, on topic -- it could be that whoever wrote that on the wiki were confused and thought that CHARTAV's Dream Waifu were the Absolute and not just his Dream Waifu.
Last edited by Dexai; 26/01/21 12:05 PM.
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It seems that the Absolute is whatever the host wants it to be. Goblins stopped worshipping Maglubiyet (who, in spite of being a cruel and bloodthirsty deity, still enforced at least some kind of discipline among them) and switched to Absolute that played along their every whim and kept feeding them ideas of gobbo supremacy. Even the caged Maglubiyet worshipper said that goblins shouldn't be enabled that much, it will destroy them. Also, the Absolute made drow turn their back on Lolth, which is a pretty big deal because one doesn't simply reject the Bitch Queen. So, I think, it's a sexlesss, genderless and endlessly manipulative entity. every Goblin or just few of them`? And regarding drow turning away from Lolth ... Maybe Minthara is an outcast who just reoriented herself
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[/spoiler] It seems that the Absolute is whatever the host wants it to be. Goblins stopped worshipping Maglubiyet (who, in spite of being a cruel and bloodthirsty deity, still enforced at least some kind of discipline among them) and switched to Absolute that played along their every whim and kept feeding them ideas of gobbo supremacy. Even the caged Maglubiyet worshipper said that goblins shouldn't be enabled that much, it will destroy them. Also, the Absolute made drow turn their back on Lolth, which is a pretty big deal because one doesn't simply reject the Bitch Queen. So, I think, it's a sexlesss, genderless and endlessly manipulative entity. every Goblin or just few of them`? And regarding drow turning away from Lolth ... Maybe Minthara is an outcast who just reoriented herself I don't know. [spoiler]When we arrive to the tavern there are many drow corpses and the survivors explicitily said they were surprised by the fact that drow joined forces with goblins, and the various goblins that are encoutered bow to the main character if they are drow. There's too a dialogue that stats the surprise of my drow when he realized that some of his fellow dark elves are not Loth sworn.
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Thanks for the hint, but honestly, something like that shouldn't be noticed in the drow community when suddenly large parts turn away from Lolth?
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Thanks for the hint, but honestly, something like that shouldn't be noticed in the drow community when suddenly large parts turn away from Lolth? It's definitely noticed. Abandoning Lolth is an insult to the goddess and a death sentence. Any drow who dares to turn away from their faith is persecuted and then sacrificed. We'll definitely deal more with drow and their internal confilct later. However, it's worth noting, that drow aren't new to striking an alliance with Illithids because they fear/admire their psionic powers and hope to use them for their conquests. Maybe they gave up some of their low-class drow for experiments, but they never expected the Absolute to appear.
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Thanks for the hint, but honestly, something like that shouldn't be noticed in the drow community when suddenly large parts turn away from Lolth? It's definitely noticed. Abandoning Lolth is an insult to the goddess and a death sentence. Any drow who dares to turn away from their faith is persecuted and then sacrificed. We'll definitely deal more with drow and their internal confilct later. However, it's worth noting, that drow aren't new to striking an alliance with Illithids because they fear/admire their psionic powers and hope to use them for their conquests. Maybe they gave up some of their low-class drow for experiments, but they never expected the Absolute to appear. That would be a very interesting take on what's happening. So much potential.
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Thanks for the replies! That clears some things up. Be interesting to see where it goes with the release of the full game, in the future. c:
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