Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback Add Lathander as selectable God, please!

I would also very much like to see Lathander as a deity option. It seems strange such a prominent and popular deity in FR is not available.

Kind of wonder if deities and domains will be updated when paladin goes live for EA. Pretty sure Ranger pets got a update with Druids.

I doubt a lot more will be added for Deities since, more voice-lines would be added for with them.

If they stick to there guns on the current deities, wonder if well run into churchs, followers, or cults for them. Making them more relevant for the areas in game more so than other deities.

We can only speculate as to why this is the way it is. I want to believe that the list of deities that went into EA v1 was a combination of :

• Some deities Larian really wanted to have in the game for EA roleplay purposes. Notably, Shar and Selune.
• A random mix of the rest to give a bit more options. And I mean, literally random.

More importantly, I want to believe that the rest of the deities will show up later, when Larian gets round to polishing this. Yeah, I know, I still have some optimism left in me.

I'm somewhat hopeful because :

• I don't see how and why Larian could decide that Lathander or Sune won't be in the game.
• I don't see what the point of having a Storm domain in the PHB (and I assume all PHB classes will make it) if we can't select Talos, Auril or Umberlee. Also, the Light domain is already in the game, and how could we not create a Light domain Cleric worshipping Lathander ?
• I have difficulties with us visiting a Druid Grove dedicated to Sylvanus, having access to the Druid class, and not being able to select Sylvanus as our main god. By the way, people who have played Patch 4 : do Druids select a main deity at character creation ? Please don't tell me no.

Exactly. I feel super snubbed that I cant play my classic "for the light" style paladin to its full potential. Id do darn near anything Larian asked if it meant he would be included.

As a person that has currently been playing a storm cleric of Akadi irl for more than 2 years now, I have a personal interest in saying that Akadi (and by extension, the other elemental lords) needs to be included.

Yeah, all "greater deities" should be in. They are prominent and there arent that many left.


So far, deity related lines dont get much custom response from npcs... youre mostly just saying fancy hellos/goodbyes/yes-ill-help that the npcs react the same to... i dont think tav will be voicing dialogue options so thats a non issue.

Akadi is more a primordial than a true god.

Meanwhile Lathander is a GREATER DEITY and got left out.

If they want selectable gods they need to give a ton of options.

I dont believe Druids select a deity, but I agree... weird he is so featured but not selectable.

Light Clerics and Ancients Paladins with no Lathander option is a GROSS oversight though.

Lots of head scratchers for who they left out.

We need the posterboy for Light, Life, and the Sun! And a proper God for Nuetral Good Paladins and Clerics.
agree... «Ilmater + TyR + Lathander> +100500

I'd have to do some testing with cleric and current deities, was pretty sure there was a few lines with companions. An if they do that for each deity that would require audio time for face actors/actresses.

+1 OP. Absolutely need Lathander in the game.

Sorry. They don't. I guess all druids worship... nature? Or something? I haven't played 5e, I'm not clear on how it works now.


I've played clerics of Ilmater, Selune and Kelemvor, but the only NPC - i.e. the only person with voiced lines - I remember specifically acknowledging one of those deities (Kelemvor) was Mr. Mummy. My clerics had some deity-specific lines, but (at least right now) those aren't voiced.


Those are my trio of favorites, and if I have to make a paladin of Tyr - assuming paladins even select gods, again I'm not too familiar with 5e - I'll be mostly satisfied, but her heart will always belong to Lathander.

Druids in 5e don't necessarily have to worship, but a lot do worship various nature deities, same goes for rangers. Paladins can now swear themselves to causes, rather than gods, but again, many still worship gods. Its about giving people options to play the kind of character they want. Also it is a side effect of getting rid of divine champions and blackguards as classes, paladin had to broaden its class portfolio. There's absolutely nothing stopping you from going old-school with your paladin, but you have options.

It's why I think everyone should have the option to select a god, because lots of people still make characters that are religious, even if they aren't playing a cleric, or need it for their class.

All of this. Still a bit upset that my two favourites (Mask and Vhaeraun) are missing.

You do not select a deity as a druid. However unless they have fixed this, you and the companions all worship Shar on the level up screen.

Hell yea!


Id be cool with mostly just having the fancy hellos/goodbyes/yes stuff. I dont need anyone to vocally acknowledge my worship i just want the custom tav lines (officially. Not a fan of mods for story stuff in these kinds of games as much)



Help me get their attention!

1) Druids can worship any God but most have a direct tie to nature. They draw from the power of nature itself, so their power is their own but they can worship.

2) yes, you are absolutely right. There are VERY few unique npc reactions to your deity... so adding Lathander isnt asking a lot.

3) Lathander, Torm, Helm and Ilmater are my faves... but Ilmater is a tad dark/creepy for my classic pally vision...

Torm and Lathander arent in the game.

And your alignment is tied to your god choice. Helm is nuetral which forces you to have the "nuetral paladin" tag which means you lose out on the "good paladin" tag dialogue options...

So essentially i have to go with Ilmater, and since Larian decided to make Ilmater worshippers kinda dark "you know the value of suffering. Prepare for the coming pain" .... yikes.

Not happy. I want my Sun boi.

100% agree everyone should be able to select a God. Even if they may not often get unique dialogue for it.

But it just wont be the same without Lathander as an option unfortunately.


Yeah they need to fix this. Not having the god of dawn and renewal is bad enough without friggin Shar being shoved down our throats.

Sigh ... thanks for the answers SunGardian, Tarloniel, Zarna (and everyone else I may have accidentally missed). I'm really wondering how Larian works ... I mean, why coming back to polish some things at the end when you could do things well from the start, and doing so does not require more work ? (Ok, it depends how their code works ... if it's not greatly organised ... it might be better to avoid giving the Deity feature to any other class if the code for the feature is to be reworked, and classes "accessing" it actually need a copy-paste of the code, instead of a pointer/fetcher to it.)




Druids started out as Clerics-but-different, being essentially modelled after the Celtic priests of the same name. Then the lore of the FR evolved, but Druids have remained Divine Spellcasters. To the question "where do your spells come from", Arcane casters would answer "study" (or "it's innate" in the case of Sorcerers), Divine casters would answer "from my god". For Druids, those would be nature gods.

Nowadays, the gods are not necessary. For Clerics and Paladins, you can say that they derive their power from faith in an ideal, philosophy or cause. Certainly, I would have assumed that you can provide a similar god-free answer for Druids, even to a GM whose setting is the strictly canonical FR. As a matter of fact, there's always been the concept of Shamans floating around, often attempted to be captured/implemented as yet another class, and the answers "spirits" or "drawn from direct, intuitive understanding of the forces of nature" have always also been there, including for Druids (and Rangers). So I just checked the PHB, which confirms all that :

So, currently Larian has created a whole Grove of Sylvanus-worshipping Druids. If I understood the trailer well, your PC Druid can become Faith Warden. So ... hm ... either they consider that a PC Druid must be of the "direct connection to nature" type and doesn't need any god, which would make absolute total sense with their depictions of Druids, or they they have never heard of Chauntea, Mielikki, Eldath, quite a few others gods as well as the "direct connection" type Druids and they assume that all PC Druids worship Sylvanus. Both of these choices would be poor ones. Or, as I hope, they just haven't gotten round to giving Druids a deity yet.



Absolutely ! Everyone should have a Deity attribute. And everyone should be able to choose "none" for Deity, including the Divine spellcasters.

There is a difference of opinion within WotC on this issue. When Greenwood is asked if the need for a god and the related fate of the faithless and the false are still in place he says yes. In the realms everyone needs a deity or they are going to suffer in the afterlife. (and if you have an evil deity you are still going to suffer) The idea that you can worship an abstraction like "law" only exists in settings like Ebberon, Dragonlance and Greyhawk.

I take Greenwood as the final authority on these matters. He's contributed more to building this world than anyone else.

Now if were DMing and someone wanted to play someone false, faithless or atheist-despite-all-evidence I would let them. The point of the rules is to have a stable place from which players can deviate, the rules illuminate the crystalline structure of your unique snowflake. So if Larian wants bring a home rule that allows people to choose no deity or an abstraction I'm all for it as long as the strangeness of the decision is highlighted. A note should appear on the character maker screen and NPCs should comment on it.

. . .

Shadowheart: "You know those fine words won't sway Kelemvor's heart or move his hand, right? He judges the dead without passion or prejudice. He will either let your soul dissolve in the wall of the faithless, give you over to some devil or declare you a worshiper of some god you once mentioned in passing"

Tav: "He can't assign me to some god just because I said their name once"

Shadowheart: "He can. He's the lord of dead, it's his decision. Besides, he'd be right to do so. All of us engage of acts of worship whether we realize it or not. When we ask Tymora to smile on us or implore Beshaba to avert her gaze we are actively venerating the gods.

You need to choose a deity. It's the only thing that makes any sense. In the mean time I would choose your next curse words carefully. I wouldn't want to see you stub your toe and hand your soul over to the goblin god of latrines or something worse.

Every time a farmer looks up on a stormy sky and think "there goes the harvest" Talos gets, like, five faith points