Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback Gale and his possible fate *contains posible spoilers*

Hey everyone,

since my playthroughs of BG3, I used to romance Gale - because he is goodloking, witty, sarcastic, seems to be good aligned (although I saw Shar as goddess in the levelups????? ) and charming - no comparrison to Astarion (the arrogant asshole) for example. And my characters really fell madly in love with that wizard of Waterdeep.
BUT (and this hurts me to say) - he may be the only one in the party, powerful enough to have the potencial, to destroy a possible Endboss. With the Netheril-orb in his chest, he could unchain a huge desaster and destroy almost everything. So I really hope, I am not right, but I am afraid, that Larian plans him to BE a living bomb, to end the Mindflayer-threat (maybe hiveminds of the flayers).

Why do I come to this solution?
After the night, you spend with Gale, he mentions, what he could try, to get rid of the fragment in his chest. Then the banter continues and he serves a couple of solutions to his "Bomb-problem". First: To get rid of the fragment in the Astral plane or learn to control it - but he doesn't think, this will work without Mystras help... But there is a third way: The one, he mentions the next day! He tells you, that - if the fragment gets unstable, he would look out for a place, that is lonesome, maybe a moutain or the underdark, go there alone and would let it explode there.

Since you can only play act one this is, where my thoughts about his upcoming role (for my character) started. And where my heart really stopped:


Sadly to say (cause he is my most fav of all the caracters I am traveling with) I am afraid, my character will loose him in either way.

Why do I think so?
Because of the given possibilities.
First: If he wants to get rid of the fragment with Mystra, then he has to face Mystra again. And he was hugely in love with Mystra. That opens up the risk, that he falls in love with her again and abandons the PC for her.
Another possibility is, that he choses the PC over Mystra, but she gets jealous and tells him, he would get her help in exchange for his devotion and love. Since Gale is quite straightforward and ambitious, I am not sure, whether he would chose a mortal being over a Godess - he was in love with.
And if he would choose my Char, this opens up the possibilty of not getting the orb stabilized - and for a sacrifice of him at the end.... So we would be forced, to leave him, so he is safe, or to the risk, the orb unstables and explodes. Love and loss again.

Second: Another thing, which is I thik very likely: he will be the one, that is needed, to defeat the Endboss - with the orb, he carries in his chest and so maybe be the most tragic companion, we will have... To steer him into the last confrontation to get killed to save us all.
If you think about this: The orb has the potential, to destroy almost everything... I really hope, that I am not right (pleaseeeeee DONT Larian)... but he is the only one in the party, that could destroy the big endboss with one glance... errr... Explosion. And if this would be the Mindflayer-Collecive, it could even be, that this doesn't even happen in our plane, but in Avernus or in the Astral plane. So he simply is the one, that has the potential, to finish the game and the Endboss. And that saddens me a lot.

Maybe this is whhy he is the one, "easiest" to romance (and easiest to bond to him) cause that would hurt most, when you have to let him go...
So you would ony have the possibility to let him go in either way....

But there is a third possibility: and I really hope, that Larian leaves a way out for the "lovers" and the ones, that crave for a Happy End:
Finding a way, to get rid of the orb in the Astral plane and seal it there (or make a bomb there and kill the endboss - but not in Gales chest :D) - thus saving Gale as a mate for our PC... and a Happy End (since I LOVE happy ends)...

(And I really hope, that I am not right, with my assumptions)....


Thus to say:
Larian... you did a great job with this Game so far. The Graphics are amazing, the romances are stunning, I like the combat system a lot, and the chars have their personalities...
And Gales romance feels natural (maybe you should work a little on the triggers, cause I missed it on my first runthrough). Please continue this stunning and amazing work... (cant wait you guys to be finished, BUT take your time, so this will be a worthy successor of the other Baldurs Gate-games, you are on an excellent way ;))....

So guys and gals:
Gimme your thoughts about that? And have a nice sunday

Love

Silva

(Since english is not my motherlanguage: You can keep any spelling- or grammar-mistakes for yourself :D)

I'm not convinced Gale is being all that truthful in all the stories he tells. I've finished an evil playthrough with him in the party and he will go along with destroying the grove, as long as the evil PC passess an insight or deception check. Even though Gale initially tells the PC he'd sacrifice his life to save others, in reality he is willing to do whatever it takes to survive, if you can convince him. The deception check is a bit funny; it's basically the evil PC telling Gale: You want to leave? Dare you.

Well, while I do not share your enthusiasm for Gale - I certainly do respect the amount of pondering you've done regarding possible outcomes.

Like you mentioned yourself, we're only in act 1 right now and there'll be loads of opportunities to discover ways to save Gale as we go (when the game is fully released). :] Do not despair ahead of time!

I am pretty sure Larian won't kill off their Origin characters easily, and if nothing else - I am fairly certain that there will be at least two (but probably three or more) endings open for origin characters (both as companions and playable such) so I would definitely think that there will be some way of sparing him from a certain death in the end, so don't you worry! :]

Mmmhhh... Yeah about that. [huge spoiler ahead]

At least, he has a deception check. See Astarion. He is evil, but doesn't comment my good deeds

And what made me think: When I leveled up, the diety, he worships, was Shar - not Mystra. So.... what should that mean? Or is this just because of the EA?

I don't think you'll need Gale to complete the game. What if he dies and you don't revive him? What if you never recruit him in the first place?

I find Gale to be one of the most interesting companions. I think he can quite easily become (or already is) very power hungry and do whatever it takes to remove the tadpole. If this is not possible then I think he will find a way to use it to his advantage and gain great power. He seems to have an obsessive personality and I don't think he is over Mystra at all. I don't have any opinion about his romance (or anyone's) because I find it ridiculous, but from things I have read on here I think it will be necessary for the player to work to keep him interested unless it turns out that the player could possibly become a deity.

Your idea about him sacrificing himself to save everyone is one I had thought would be interesting. Something I would really like to see is if he leaves the group or is never recruited, then he ends up allied to whatever the end boss is and we have to fight him.

On level up, it seems everyone worships Shar including our characters I think. This is probably a bug. If not, he could have turned to Shar because Mystra "abandoned" him or she could have promised him something.

I am sure we won't need him or any of them. I think anyone who leaves or is never recruited will show up as someone we have to fight later. Shadowheart If Gale is never resurrected I think he either will explode or someone else may have use for him and bring him back.

Sure, but just because Astarion is evil doesn't mean Gale is good. Wyll for example will leave and you can't convince him to stay.

Shar showing up as deity on level up is a bug (except obviously Shadowheart), it can happen with any companion.