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There's lots of love angles in this game, especially in the camp, but there are others, if you pay attention.

Without giving out spoilers, there are some very good clues giving reasons not to harm Gribbo.

Kill her or don't, she has no loot and plays no further part in the game. She's just another of the horde that will turn hostile if you kill the goblin bosses. In that respect, she's just meaningless fodder. A filler.

But it you look deeper, there are reasons to save Gribbo. Well, for Larian Studios to save her, or at least give you the dialogue and options to do so.

As I say, once she's played her part, she's forgotten, 10 XP at best. Sad, really. cry

But she could be saved - by Larian.

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In a similar but more pragmatic way, sans the heartstrings, I think Larian should give us a way to not alienate Roah Moonglow, the Halfling trader.

The game's setup up, especially in the Goblin camp, is "You attack one, you attack all". mad

Yet at least two in the camp, given the chance, will say, "Sod this, I'm off!"

Besides Gribbo following her heart, there should be a way to stay on the good side of the Zhentarim, even build rep with the network. A way to convince them it's in their best interest to leave. The dialogue does point this way, but it's not followed through. They aren't there for the Absolute, or the goblins. The Zhent are strictly neutral traders -it's just business. Dying is not good business!

Lots of way it could be done in keeping with the story - threats, bribes, covering their losses, even getting them to set up shop in your camp.

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Heck yes. I'd love this. Personally I would like the option to officiate at Gribbo and Volo's wedding (Very Chaotic move) back at our camp. And they can stay there in marital bliss.

Until she eats him of course...no big loss.

And the trader makes sense as well, they should stay out of it. Zhents aren't known for sentimentality so I don't see why they would get involved.


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It depends on how you play through the gobbo camp. I killed Gut, Intimidated Gribbo so she let Volo go without a fight, sided with Minthara to clear the gobbos out of the lair except those with Ragzlin and killed Ragzlin far enough away from the Zhents that they didn't join in the fight.

So, in a sense, didn't kill Gribbo or the Zhents.

Still, would be cool to make a deal with them or something.

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Originally Posted by GM4Him
It depends on how you play through the gobbo camp. I killed Gut, Intimidated Gribbo so she let Volo go without a fight, sided with Minthara to clear the gobbos out of the lair except those with Ragzlin and killed Ragzlin far enough away from the Zhents that they didn't join in the fight.

So, in a sense, didn't kill Gribbo or the Zhents.

Still, would be cool to make a deal with them or something.

So were you able to interact with them and buy and trade after?


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Hmmm... You know what? No. You're right, I guess. Went and killed Ragzlin and then yeah, everyone including the Zhents turned on me after all. Interesting. That is pretty dumb.

But I did notice that they opened the door and ran inside as if to protect the smokepowder shipment they'd just delivered. So maybe that was what Larian was going for. If you come near them, they just attack you because they are assuming you are going to kill them since you killed Ragzlin, the guy they were trading with. Basically, you messed over their business arrangement, and then you came in their direction. So now they wanna kill you.

It would be cool to turn them against Ragzlin and the goblins, somewhat like how you can turn Lump and his companions against them.

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Only reason I can find not to kill Ragzlin is to keep roah neutral for trade :V personally I think it makes sense she turns to enemy as her entire stash is under threat. She has no idea if the enemy will try to attack so she retreats to where the merchandise is and will attack anyone who tries to enter. What would be a good add is an option to talk to her through the door, to convince her we only wish to trade. (Or pummel her if thats what the player wants) A way to get a chance to give her purpose. Even propose to escort her out as she is not part of this absolute mess, pun intended. wink

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I was always wondering, why the Zhentarim would go hostile, but of course protecting the merchandise ist a valid reason. I normally kill them anyway, since they are slavers.

I think, the only one, not going hostile, If you don't attack him directly, is Abdirak. He even advises you to leave at one point, because 'the goblins are out for blood'.

Gribbo often aggroes, when I fight the goblin group in the main hall and I have to kill her.

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Originally Posted by Kryldost
Only reason I can find not to kill Ragzlin is to keep roah neutral for trade :V personally I think it makes sense she turns to enemy as her entire stash is under threat. She has no idea if the enemy will try to attack so she retreats to where the merchandise is and will attack anyone who tries to enter. What would be a good add is an option to talk to her through the door, to convince her we only wish to trade. (Or pummel her if thats what the player wants) A way to get a chance to give her purpose. Even propose to escort her out as she is not part of this absolute mess, pun intended. wink

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by GM4Him
... killed Ragzlin and then yeah, everyone including the Zhents turned on me after all...
But I did notice that they opened the door and ran inside as if to protect the smokepowder shipment they'd just delivered.

Imagine their surprise when then ran in and found the room empty... wink


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