Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback Web a 2nd level spell in it's current iteration is objectively worse than grease a 1st level spell

My experience playing Baldur's Gate 3 has left me regretting ever using web over grease. (Patch 6)

How web currently works from my experience is it creates a area of difficult terrain. When cast or entered if you fail a dex save you're retrained for 1 round (ending at the start of your turn rather end). It can ignite creating an area of fire and requires concentration.

Grease is a non-concentration spell that fills the same area (Is half as big in the board game), has a dex or be knocked prone (Which is arguably a worse debuff than web due to them starting their turn with less movement outside support from items protecting you from web, and if you walk into the field you lose your turn rather than getting disadvantage on attack rolls).

In the board game web's strength was you'd be restrained until you used an action to break free, burned the web or teleported. Neither the starting in web retrains you (though the effect happens instantly when you cast in BG3) nor does grease force the saving throw while ending your turn in it.


You can argue that prone condition as a debuff when applied on your own turn is too strong, shouldn't it work more like the board game? Losing your action and rest of movement if you fall prone on your own turn is pretty bad. Perhaps you could add the ability to spend half your movement to stand up, and/or let people keep their action but impose disadvantage on all attack rolls.

On another note, it's pretty cool that all the npc's now jumps, but leaves a lot more desired from the difficult terrain from both web and grease when enemies just jump out if they start there. (I know it's not worthless as they lose a bonus action but it kinda feels bad. Though I can see the balancing aspect.)


That being said I do immensely enjoy your game. Keep up the good work.

Just another example of homebrew changes unbalancing the game that has been significantly playtested for no tangible benefit.

Both Web and Grease are only meant to explode spectacularly for more fun.

no. no they're not. just please. stop.

Are we playing the same game? Every time you try to control the battlefield with Web or Grease they somehow explode. It's a Larian game.

Correct, they do, almost every time. But to state that's their purpose is wrong. Their purpose, is to control the battlefield, and not by making enemies stop in awe of all the pretty fireworks.

Just because Larian don't understand or even show interest in learning a ruleset doesn't change that.


And, before people start spamming that burning the web is in fact a dnd rule. Yes it is. It's there so your opponent can make the option of getting rid of the obstacle by taking a bit of damage. Or so that you can choose to deal a bit of early AoE if several enemies are stuck in the web. That is a perfect example of why Larian should develop BG3 as they love that kind of stuff and knows how to make it visually pleasing. The fact that Larian gave grease the same treatment and changed chromatic orb to make surfaces are twp perfect examples why they shouldn't.

Fully agree. If it's not broken, don't try to fix it Larian

I am fairly certain 1varangian was being sarcastic and it just wasn't coming across.

Another thing that should be noted is that if we had proper 3d placement of spells you should be able to stretch web between two walls vertically as well but you can't do that since everything is actually just on a 2d plane and has no proper height/flight system.