i have gold and ropes, silver armor is in stash beer is gone, i was thirsty <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sad.gif" alt="" />, how you all figure this stuff out is beyond me i took the armor and the dragon heart to the dwarf blacksmith with no luck, it seemed the thing to do, oh well time to hit the gong and work to the end of the game. thanks for the help, so why did you need the beer? bigger summoner? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />