I think we can all agree with egin here...there's no doubt that's true. Anyways if we want to be so picky and ask where they would get a charm for the ring, first where did they originally get the ring itself? And why are we still talking about something so trivial? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" /> Good stuff <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />