Criticism versus Insults.
@Kejero
How to end this and any other war here is crystal clear to me.
I think you are psychologically affirming what you deeply doubt.
Because rather than becoming objective and to the point you began to behave with a patronising tone and you repeated a set of disputed insults, which should most probably start a war not end it.
Therefore your statement up there shows the need for “it” to affirm the existence of the nonexistent, which is the clarity of a method that you have no idea about.
Raze made a very important point: DAD, you don't know the difference between an attack and critics.
This is the true debate, and if you were correct then why did I feel hurt rather than feeling corrected?
If I did not know the difference then why did you not post the difference?
You did not read a single page in a single book on criticism, and your condescending statements do not shake my faith in my solid knowledge.
It is you who need to study the difference between objective criticism and insults in the linguistic form.
It is very possible that Kiya did not mean to insult me but she did. Perhaps you are correct about her intentions but I only read her insults and yours that follows here.
Your "proof" that kiya started it is a joke - especially because she was right:
that mail was rude, patronizing, condescending... and kiya or anyone else had and has every right to point that out.
Your affirmation without logical rationalisation does not prove that she was right or wrong, and in fact you have just joined a very long line of defenders who did not study the problem at all.
You do not even show that you do understand the meaning of each insult in the list that you have so eloquently repeated.
What is the meaning of rudeness?
What is the meaning of a patronising behaviour?
What is the meaning of condescending behaviour?
In fact the true meanings apply perfectly to your post being directed at me, but they do not apply to my post directed to the “ToTheGame”
As Viper already pointed out: grow up, man, and learn to recognize reason and take criticism.
Oh! I shall take criticism when I see one.
I do not see any
Analysis, or do you believe that there is any criticism without one?
Naturally, you have endorsed vulgarity and called it criticism.
I am quite grown up and I can prove it, but I must have fallen into a pit of kids who yet need to know the difference between pointing your finger at someone’s face and calling him rude, and analysing what he said and proving the rudeness of his words.
Naturally, you have no freaking idea what the difference is, saying a verdict does not prove it or create its foundation
If I told you: “My opinion is that your post sounded like a post posted by an idiot”.
It would be a very clever insult and not an opinion or criticism at all.
But if I told you: “On the third line in your last post where you said that apples are oranges, I fail to see how can such a contradiction be taken as a premises for you following sentence.”
I did not need to call you by names but surely enough every one reading my post shall know that you are what I would have wished calling you.
Hey, while we're at it, once you're done learning those,
please learn to follow your own "advice" which you like to give to every member here who disagrees with you - I asure you you'll get "attacked" (read: criticized) a lot less.
Your assurance is very comforting indeed.
Your insults were quite contradicting though.
Your intentions are very friendly but not towards me for sure.
Your logic is extremely wanting.
I advise you to at least read a dictionary before giving a lesson to a retired professor.
Rude = uncivilised and insulting.
You need to find out how a civilised advise being strong in tone due to frankness, is quite different from the vulgarity of pointing a finger and shouting “RUDE”.
Patronising = To show favour in a condescending manner,
which is exactly what Kiya and now YOU are doing.
Telling others that they are right or wrong in the form of a final verdict without suffering the trouble of teaching them the reasoning behind the verdict assumes haughtiness of he who gives the final verdict, like a judge in a courtroom, and the verdict of whom may not be rebounded.
Condescending = To descend voluntarily for a time to the level of an inferior. To lower oneself intentionally.
There are to situations here. One is the fact of doing it while another is pretending it.
I may choose to condescend to be friendly towards my students.
You may not pretend to condescend from an imaginary cloud to teach a professor, or it would be an insult.
Did you now understand the difference?
