ya i went in and deleted a whoping 32 files in the directory you specified raze, started DD back up ( after DLing the patch ofcourse ) crossed my fingers and loaded my lost game, to no avail <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> o well guess that gives me an oppertunity to try my rogue/summoner idea. thanks for the info and help raze gives me a chance next time if i run across another inconvienent bug <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />. dont get me wrong macbeth warriors as always are fun to play, but i do think they could've done somthing to make them a bit more powerful, i dunno maybe im a bit spoiled being able to whirlwind my way through 20 baddies then leaping a screen away etc. in this game your only close combat ability is a slow 360 spin... kinda makes it difficult to keep up with the kill ratio range/magic can yeild, however if this was a multiplayer ( online even ) game i would get down toataly all out with a warrior, but being that DD is strictly single player killing the fastest is all that really matters in my oppinion.