accually no that doesnt sound silly at all, im laughing my [nocando] off right now, before i checked my abilities thinking that it was somthing i had to spend mana on to cast and it wasnt there. but when i read your post i checked the path of the divine one, and lo and behold i can now use the ability as if it magicly appeared before, i guess this all makes sense cuz i stoped spending skill points a while ago since that theres no reason to spend my 14 points on anything being that besides the bugs and glitches this is just about the easyest game ive ever played... frost wpns are just plain wrong <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" />. if you didnt tell me to check the divine path i prolly would've ended up quiting entirly, thx bud.