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{{{A scrolling bar that never worked.}}}


In <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> inventory interface there is indeed a vertical scroll-bar.
Each item added to the inventory, at some point in game development, was supposed to occupy an unshared space such that scrolling down was required to view all items.
This scroll-bar never worked as added items overlapped and shared the same space by implementing a huge list of a z-axis queue rather than an exclusive (x,y) coordinate matrix for items’ locations in the image list.

So that feature was planned but it was never implemented due to short development time I guess, or it was discarded on the grounds of assumptions made about the maximum weight an avatar could carry.

Items’ list queue seems to have had a chaotic stance indeed because that *unmanaged* queue reflected into the trading interface as an *unsorted* FIFO although THAT scroll-bar (trading interface) did work!

The best programming is done by the least assumptions made and the expectation of every limit breach on which an error should generate a warning message *No more items could be added to your inventory*.

The inventory scroll bar is there but it never worked. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

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Hope they fix this in <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> and <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" />2

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Hope they fix this in <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> and <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" />2

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Why???

I think DAD gave a pretty good reason why not, unless you mean: Remove the idea all together, Lets face it with armor,weapons, potions and Misc, you really wanna scroll?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" />


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yep that's what I meant

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Hope they fix this in <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" /> and <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" />2

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Why???

I think DAD gave a pretty good reason why not, unless you mean: Remove the idea all together, Lets face it with armor, weapons, potions and Misc, you really wanna scroll?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" />


Of course I want to scroll, Mea.

How can I select an item I could hardly see four pixels of it under a pile of items when they are garbled on top of each other?

The reason they did not care to implement it was a wrong estimate of the maximum weight the avatar can carry and the maximum number of items that could be included in such a weight.

With lighter weight items that have big size graphics the assumed condition was breached.
This means that the total available area for graphics in the window was not enough to include all the light weight items an avatar can carry, hence the error that was fixed by implementing a z-order location of the items assuming that they would not be that much, but they turned out to be much more than ever expected.

How about the unlimited containment in a chest that could hold an infinite number of items; the fantasy is ok, but a scroll bar would be very nice and a sort-items-command-button would be much better.

I could add items at any order into a chest as I get them but I certainly would like to see the shields together and the swords together so that I may check their properties and select the one I think I need.
Otherwise conducting a comparison would be a tedious task.

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Well DAD maybe Mea did not understand the way you explain it in the first time. What you said is right, it is a little complicated when you carry a lot of stuff and on top of that when you carry big items that hide the other ones(such like the bed north of cursed abby, the piano in the Larian Armor quest, and such like). I do hope they fix this in <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" />2 and <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" />

But you know what?
If they don't, I will still buy those games(like everyone in this forum I think)

good luck to all!!!

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Hmm I dunno I have never been able to collect THAT much stuff, and if it got too much, well I just dragged one of Geoff's Barrels to my campsite by the T/P and used that as my storage area, ergo problem solved <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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I do hope they fix this in <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" />2 and <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/riftrunner.gif" alt="" />
But you know what?
If they don't, I will still buy those games
(like everyone in this forum I think)


You bet. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

I am buying regardless of any number of bugs or dreams not coming true. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
But we cannot stop hoping, can we? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

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"But we cannot stop hoping, can we?" DAD

exactly! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

good to see u here again. u're a rare sight nowadays. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />


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