Larian Studios Forums General Chat RPG Chat SW: Knights of the Old Republic (no spoilers)

hey mandrake & winterfox,

finally installed the game. oh boy, does it swallow up a whole lot of space! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

i have built a scoundrel character with hope to build it like a rogue. winterfox, it seems that scoundrel class works better with ranged weapons. or do u think it's otherwise?

scout or explorer(as mentioned in the manual) seems like diplomat in D&D. shouldn't this character has persuade as class skill? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

anyway, i've just started & currently just gone out of the smelly apartment. thought of going evil but my inner cherub forced me not to. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

any advice for me on character development?

Hello everyone,

I've finished KotOR a while ago as a light jedi, and there's mostly only one thing you need to know if you dont want to become weak. If you dont have offensive dark force powers, you NEED light saber throw before the end. I didnt and had to finish the game at easy difficulty <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> I wont tell you more cause I dont want to spoil anything but an offensive dark force power or light saber throw really helps at the end.

I hope this helps, have fun playing the game <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

Yup, I finished the game too -- and I was so stupid, never had an offensive dark-sided Jedi power, nor Throw Lightsaber. *beats self over the head with a bat* Damn it, next time, I'll come at you with drain life, you Hutt-spawned, poxy... cheater! Rowr.

Yes, a scroundel is better off using ranged weapons. Never, ever, bother with melee weapon proficiency; that's a mistake I made. Lighsabers have a separate proficiency, so the hope of building melee proficiency feats for the lightsabers is out. If you intend to go melee as a Jedi and haven't become one yet, pick either two-weapon fighting line of feats or dueling. (Depending on whether you want to wield a single-bladed lightsaber, dual-wield two single-bladed lightsabers, or wield a double-bladed lightsaber.)

Scout seems to be adept at computer skills and suchlike, using mostly ranged weapon (definitely not a melee class).

hello mandrake & winterfox as well as other KOTOR gamers,

the game's getting better. although i have yet 2 finish all quests in the first planet (how many planets do we get to explore?), most of them are very interesting & there are almost always 2 ways to solve any quest. this is very good for alignment shifts.

graphics-wise, it's pretty heavy. my system (athlon 800MHz, geforce4 mx440se, 256MB DDRAM, 40GB HD) can handle most parts with a bit of slowdown in busy areas such as upper taris.

sound-wise, it's quite good & as expected, all star wars sound can be heard with clarity. there are no/little tweaks for sound however, like that in NWN which u can configure for headphones, 2 or 4 or 5.1 speaker setups.

gameplay-wise, it's a hell lot better than NWN as i feel the RPG system is much lighter @ manual reading not essential. for fallout fans, this may be one of very few good games to play since FO3 will never ever happen. a lot of moral dilemmas presented in this game. many shades of grey.

this game does emphasise on items which really boost your characters' effectiveness. & i find that especially for your main character, specialisation leads to death. many instances (which i won't mention here due to the thread's non-spoiler nature) supports my experiences. for other party members, specialisation increases their effectiveness.

overall, a great game to play. i have yet 2 explore other worlds so i hope this game isn't an incarnation of lionheart: tiger's head, mouse's tail, as how a chinese saying would go.

so how's your progress, winterfox & mandrake? light or dark? can a dark jedi co-exist with a goodie 2-shoe jedi in a party? i'm trying to make such combo now.

edit: oops, i guess u've answered some of them already, winterfox. sorry. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />

I'm on my second go. This time, I'm going neutral-ish, and then I'll go to Dark Side at a... certain point.

I'm not sure what you mean about specialization being a no-no. In my last go, Master Critical Strike was essential. And in this game, I'm going with Master two-weapon fighting, Master Flurry, and Master Speed. Now that is some fast lightsabers a-whirling!

what i mean is that the main character needs both ranged & melee attacks to get by in certain parts of the game. cantina duels, for instance.

Eh. In those duels, I just start by throwing a grenade, close the distance, and fight in melee. With some stimulants to buff, of course. Don't see the need for ranged attacks otherwise, especially once you become a Jedi.

I like both, and as a scout I do better with ranged weapons. It all depends on how you want to develop you character I guess, but I kick butt with twin blasters.

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@ Jangutt: Overclock your card a little, set the res to 800 x 600, the textures to high and turn on Quincunx Anti Aliasing. it looks top notch for me and runs fast.

@ Winterfox: Dark Jedi for me next. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

"Never underestimate the power of the dumb side of the force" - My scout when lost.

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Hi guys. Got my connection back half hour before. (we moved to another office space again).

May have spoilers ----------

I have been playing Kotor for 3-4 days. Played with predefined characted doing several auto-lvlups for a bit and lately started new game creating custom kick-*ss melee DW fighter. He is dumb as baseball bat, but strong and agile <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> and he is on a good side. With this character I was able to defeat Cold-chick without any grenades. That next opponent (Mark I think) is still too strong.

Will the use of dark jedi powers influence allingment?

Janggut hi mate. Are you far in the game?

Oops !



The first time I read this I read "I've been playing Kotor for 3-4 years" ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

@Alrik: Now that would be serious replay value <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

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Darkside powers usage won't affect your "alignment," but Force Persuade (option in dialogue; available if you pick the power "Affect mind") will.

hey everyone!

egin, nice to have u back. how's homeworld2? i'm still stuck at the same level. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

so far i made my main char (scoundrel w/ heart of gold) to be good in both ranged & melee. she's more of a support in combat while bastila's the jedi meat/tank. force cure is really a life saver (actually 3 if all party members are organic). i may make my main char a jedi as i'm currently in datooine. of course a scoundrel who's a pallie-wannabe. yeah i know, weird. but fun.

it depends on how u play & the game's not as hard as what i expect. the bosses can be overcome by throwing the whole party on them. yep, grenade to start things off. u got that right, winterfox. i even took the big bad droid down instead of shutting it off via security terminal. u know, if u don't mind the pricey parts & spikes, u can get additional XP points just doing repairs & all that. will have to try this in my replay as a baddie.

mandrake, i believe my bottleneck is my processor, not my graphics card though i would consider OC once i can install an additional active heatsink on the GPU. my game sails nicely so far thanks to the GPU & SB live soundcard. that way my pathetic processor has most burden offloaded from it.

You have no choice, actually. You have to become a Jedi. (Or you can choose not to level up, and get stuck at whatever level you are at that point.)



*gives a sinister smile* There are times in the game where you are forced to fight on your own, no party members. There's one case on Dantooine, in fact, but the opponent's fairly weak. In other occasions, not so weak. Prepare to run through a dungeon crawl-ish area without your party members some time in the game. Ho, ho, ho.

Mind you, as you've observed, the combat's super easy regardless.



Yeah. The minimum requirement is a 1GHz processor.

I am now turning all graphical options to maximum, by the way (after I got my FX 5900). 8X, soft shadows, grass, at 1024*768 resolution with 75 refresh rate, etc. No lag. Wondrous. *gloats* <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

awww.... u have to gloat, don't u? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

Yikes, I have tried the game on max settings 1600x1200, it failed to start.
Then I have lowered resolution to 1024x768. I think anti-aliasing is maxed also. Everything goes fine so far except upper city open areas with lots of characters on screen. And after that jedi-lady joined my team with her lightsaber i get slide-show (low framerate) during every fight. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> This sux, as I expected more from my PC <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/memad.gif" alt="" />



Janggut. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I have no progress with HW2. Never tried it again since then.
Just wanna play something else.

Tee-hee. What's your machine's specs?

By the way, there are some times when lower resolution is actually more practical. Like the turret minigames, where the fighters become bigger, easier targets.

Winterfox it is not the fastest one, but still
P3, 2,56MHz, 512RAM, ATI Radeon 9700pro.

@ Winterfox: Using affect mind gives you darkside points??? But I took that skill. It makes no sense to give you dark points (Unless you are making them do something bad). Obi Wan uses it in Star Wars and he certainly isnt a Dark Jedi. *Kicks Bioware*

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