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Icicle indeed! Nice, Raze!

@Barta


-> [color:"#3A495A"]How can the others monks be sure then they don't have a dot? Let's a assume there is one monk with a dot. We take one monk without a dot: he sees one dot, but how does he know that he doesn't have a second dot himself? Same goes for all the other monks: they can't know, in the situation you described, whether they have or don't have a dot. Conclusion: these monks have no fear to sacrifice themselves - if they know they have a dot, they will jump, otherwise we would get the above situation and no monk could know for sure whether and/or when he has to jump.

It's the best answer I've ever gotten though! Good thinking <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />[/color]

hmm I thought barta had it..
This is a tricky one <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

so only 1 of them can see, but he can't communicate?

And the rest can't communicate either?

No, every monk can see the other monks.

So each monk knows from another monk whether that monk has a dot or not - he just doesn't know if he has one himself.

And none of them can communicate in any way.

@Kejero

I did not understand well this :


I thought that "a single monk" meaned "only one monk", so i have made a mistake.
Then i thought that everyone, even a monk, will be feared to sacrifice himself.

This idea of topic is good, the forum is a little bit sleepy since a few days.

Barta

How do you use the spoiler color?

Hi Merendrious

The spoiler color has been made by Raze.
This is the code :"#3A495A"
You click on font colour and you chooze the last one "?" and you enter the code in the small window.

If you forget this code you just have to quote a message with the spoiler color, copy it and use it in your own post.
Like this :
Spoiler[color:"#3A495A"]Hi Merendrious, how are you ?[/color]
Barta

You're right, it's confusing... I'll edit it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

cant they just hold hands with the ones they see have dots??

Thanks a lot Barta.
I think I have an answer:
[color:"#3A495A"]When they go to the cliff, they look down in the water and so they can see themself reflecting in the water. By doing that they can see if they have a dot or not. Is it correct? [/color]

Wrong answer: ~~~[color:"#324152"]The monks murder all the monks without red dots until there are only red-dot monks left. Or less cruedly, perhaps they were just locked up. No, because "all the monks went out" on the day of the jump.[/color]~~~

Wrong answer: ~~~[color:"#324152"]There were only two monks? They why didn't the red-dot monk jump on day one. Also, they state "monks" plural.[/color]~~~

I'm having to go with Merendrious idea so far. ~~~[color:"#324152"]It must have been misty on the first two days.[/color]~~~

Thinking...

of course, it was never said whether there was water at the bottom of the cliff or not.

Murky water maybe. Nothing they can see themselves in.

i give up. kej, pm me the answer!

patience, grasshopper. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

or a new answer, i think this one is correct: [color:"#3A495A"]They decide to go one time to the cliff for every single monk. If they the number of days is equal to the number of monks with dots they see, they have to jump. In this case that are 4 monks with dots. That means those monks not having a dot, are seeing 4 people with a dot. The monks with a dot, are seeing only 3 monks with dots. So they have to jump on the third day. The other monks don't jump cause they would jump on the 4th day. But since the other monks already jumped, they don't.

Correct? [/color]

Nope, that would be a form of communication.

No reflection in the water: God took away ALL means by which they could see themselves, so that includes water.

(As HandEFood pointed out already <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> )

If it was so misty that they couldn't see eachother, I think it's fair to assume they could never see the edge of the cliff. They would've all fallen off <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

No, it wasn't misty <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

There's no coincidence involved - purely intelligence of the monks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

You're getting close.
-> [color:"#3A495A"]
But I'm sorry to say your answer is wrong <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> Redo the reasoning and figure out why 4 monks with a dot is not the answer we're looking for. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
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