[quote]America is very concerned for humanity indeed. And for Japan too. Very concerned. The atomic bomb made a great good to humanity. Yeap. Do I have to say more?
Yeah, I mean it's not like Japan sucker punched the US on December 7th by attacking Pearl Harbour and FORCING THE US INTO A WAR WE HAD BEEN STAYING OUT OF UP TILL THAT POINT!
What did you expect the US to do? Curl up like a bunch of nancy boys and start sucking our thumbs and crying?
Nope I expected to answer to that but not with an atomic bomb! It was a great victory indeed to see children without hands or burned by radiation! I cryed for the young Americans who died in Pearl Harbor. But the damage the Americans made with that bomb had effect in the whole humanity.
Yeah, it effectivly told the rest of humanity to not mess with the US.
I am not terribly fond of the fact we dropped the bombs on civilians anymore than you are. I think in war your only targets should be military installations, but this was back in 1941 and there weren't a whole lot of rules for war like we have today. War basically meant you tried to screw the opponent over in anyway possible to get them to wave the white flag.
Since then, we've gone through several different administrations as well as a few generations and nowadays, the US doesn't target civilians, we target military installations and the like.
To be perfectly honest with you, I'm not seeing your connection between the US retaliating against Japan in the early 40's and the US ousting Saddam and his regime today.
[color:"yellow"] Yeah, it effectivly told the rest of humanity to not mess with the US.
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Are you serius? Little children were killed because US wanted to pass the message that nobody can mess with them?[/quote]
Like I said, I'm with you on the part that we shouldn't have dropped the bombs on civilians, so I don't see why we need to be debating this point if we agree.
And my comment was not to connect the two wars. It was about humanity. Which is what interests me the most. Not US.
Humanity? Why aren't you complaining about Saddam then as well? he wasn't exactly a humatiarian, you know.
Why aren't you complaining about Germany. Under Hitler they killed 6 million Jews.
That's right, because it's not the same Germany today as it was back in 1940s. Well, it's not the same Us as it was back in the 1940s either.
You can't attribute FDR's decisions to the US today anymore than you attribute Hitler's decisions to Germany today.
Well done then. Nobody messes with you. You are strong, you have weapons, you have army. Stay happy.
Allow me to stay sad and express my opinion whenever I see people die all over the world no matter what.
War is not solving anything and you know it.
War has solved things before (Revolutionary war, anyone?) Like I said before, Freedom needs to be fought for because if a country is being oppressed by another country or its government, the opprosers aren't going to stop being oppressive if you send them then a nice letter written in Caligraphy on pretty papper that says:
"Dear Evil Regime:
Please stop being mean to us. It hurts our feelings and we just want to live happy and free.
Sincerely,
The Oppressed"
Tell me something, what other method, besides war, would have been an effective tool for ousting Saddam, or stopping Hitler or for the Thirteen Colonies to break from England. If some of these anti-war people can come up with a viable and realistic solution to win freedom and stop evil, I'll change my opinion, but so far all I've ever heard from anti-war people over the years is "War isn't the answer!"
And their right in that regard. War isn't the answer, it's the question. Sometimes the answer is Yes.
9/11 should be a lesson. And I still cry for the people who died then. Because they were innocent and they were sacrificed for politics and games. If US external politics were different then perhaps those people would still be alive.
Yes, it was a lesson. It was a lesson that the world is full of evil people who are also cowards. I don't buy into this "If you'd just present a better image, then everyone would like you and all would be right with the world," As if the US is to blame there are terrorists in the world.
Terrorists have always been around, long before 9/11. The US is just responding on a grander scale than others because we have the means to do so.
Once again, if anyone has a better idea for stopping terrorism besides hunting them down, I'd love to hear it.
We had a pretty good image at that point in time already overall, but as the saying goes, "you can't please everyone all the time." Basically, there is always going to be someone who dislikes the US.
And perhaps you don´t see the connection but please tell me one thing : How US is always messing in a war? Why all the problems must be solved in this way?
Um, no offense, but I don't understand your first question. As for the second question, I've already answered it, twice in fact.
People like Saddam will not give up power without a struggle. Granted people have died in the war on Iraq, but not anywhere near the amount of people that would be killed if Saddam stayed in office until he died of old age.
I'm sorry to. I'm sorry the world we live in has things like War and Hunger and Poverty and Curling. I wish we didn't, but we do, and we always will because that is human nature, and it will never change. It can change individually, but it will never change globally.
