Mick:
Humanity? Why aren't you complaining about Saddam then as well? he wasn't exactly a humatiarian, you know.
Why aren't you complaining about Germany. Under Hitler they killed 6 million Jews.
That's right, because it's not the same Germany today as it was back in 1940s. Well, it's not the same Us as it was back in the 1940s either.
Correct, Mick. The German society went forward and learned that war is no solution, the American politics since that time changed, too - correct. I'm asking myself into which direction though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> - nope, I'm not asking myself, I'm stating this: My fist into your eye => violence and aggression as the "easiest" answer to eliminate problems. As Luc said before: archaic - I say uncivilised - as Faile said: makes both eyes blind - I say, destroying every ability to see something clearly with brain/reason and intelligence.
Kiya
And even Saddam's capture will not change anything, sorry. Hatred is a very strong drug and it's infected the whole Arabian world already - and it will spread. I recall/remember discussions of this kind on the old forum. At that time I said: Iraq will become America's new Vietnam trauma. And I'm meaning this: A crisis in your own country, among your own people, problems with national identity and pride. The gap is already there if I read US news. Don't ignore this, please: the rest of the world is watching closely and even those countries who didn't agree to this war are involved, specially all Western countries. And we will pay the price, if we wish to or not. This war is only one thing in my eyes: A fallback into destruction. (my opinion)
Kiya
[color:"yellow"]@to Spick and other "Booze" legend believers:[/color] The "booze" thread was closed due to LOW LEVEL language not due to the drinking there - please, stop spreading this misinfo (yeah, I know, you're not the only one stubbornly choosing to stick to that opinion). I don't know how often I had/have to repeat that correction - it's beginning to bug me a lot <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/memad.gif" alt="" />
Edit again: In fact I don't agree to everything in this thread - but it's really civil IMO - passionate, yes. But war is not a tea party, this brings up emotions in pros/cons. And I believe, it's better to exchange controversional opinions than let them boil in silence <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
None of us has the whole truth in our hands, we can all only see a fragment of it (if it exists at all) - as long as we communciate we try to find a way to one another, correct?
