Yeah, I know, Elgi. An open ear/eye for brain arguments needs a calm head and distance... maybe time will help.
We've got the "Unverbesserlichen, Ewig-Gestrigen (incorrigibles/diehards)" in Germany also, hm? Think of all the Neo-Fascists we've got.
Nope, I'm not comparing these groups now - but the closed ear/eye approach is the same - same goes for the frustration I have then - same for my impulse to batter some sense into heads <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />.
Kiya <not always civilised>
