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#137441 17/12/03 04:14 PM
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The Positive Side

What is in a name!

For us who played the game, Divinity abstracts an RPG product.
For those who never heard of it Divinity is an attribute of Gods.

Beyond is a modern English of the older begeondan.
As a noun, it holds both space and time attributes of something being more than another when the issue is distance or time from here and now.
What you might have not known is that it means *Heaven* or simply some other place some other time.

Beyond Divinity was certainly not meant to be with a meaning like *More than just a God* because it could be irritating to believers who do not think that anything could be beyond the creator of all.

Beyond Divinity was certainly simply coined with the meaning *After the RPG named Divine Divinity*, which restores the original name that did not have that *Divine* part in it.
In that sense of the words, *Beyond* becomes only a time indicator on the outside of the game and means *After-Divinity* as a story, however, on the inside of the game it does mean a further place as well.

This simple choice of words sacrifices the strength of the title that pointed to the character of the Avatar as in the choice of *The Rift Runner*; simplicity also sacrifices the connection to the race of the Ranaar.

The name Beyond Divinity tells us as fans that this game is a sequel of Divinity and it loses hinting at rifts from which we teleport to battlefields and other important teleportation that the concept of a rift runner was founded on.

The positive side of the new name of the game is that it can be used as a numbering system.
In that sense of the word the first game was known to be Divinity and the second would be Beyond Divinity.
Exploiting this logic we can expect the third game to be named Beyond (Beyond Divinity) and the fourth game to be Beyond (Beyond (Beyond Divinity)).

But the cumbersomeness of the lengthy names could be handled by Algebra by raising the word *Beyond* to the power of its repetition and the fourth game would be Beyond^3 Divinity, where that mantissa indicates the number of the sequel.

If that is all what this naming system does, then why did Larian Studios did not simply call it *Divinity II* or *Divinity 2* and rename the project of the previous *Divinity 2* as *Divinity 3*?

Now this is really *Beyond Comprehension* <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

But what is in a name!

Let us look at the positive side beyond the name <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> . <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />



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When I read my last post it hurts my head. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" />

Yup, I agree that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> is simply 20 years later. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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Or you could just use a reply button in this thread... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />
Hey, seriously.


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lol had similar comment in the other thread. Mine was Ulitimate divinity


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When I read my last post it hurts my head. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" />

Yup, I agree that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> is simply 20 years later. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />


I missed reading that thread altogether.
It seems that my thinking was not too alien to that of others.
The question that begs for an answer is that if the whole idea behind changing the name is to stick to sequel naming rules then why not Divinity 2?

I could think of a dozen better names, such as *The Curse*, *The Entrapment*, *Pirates of the Ranaar*, *Read Run and Rift* Or *Runes, Rifts and Ranaar* or *The Knight, the Servant and the Witch*.

However, we should not deny that the name Rift Runner sounded like Blade Runner when we first heard it and it really needed to be changed. So here is the positive side; if changing the name was not a very big deal then better hurry and change the name again very soon to something better before the distributors invest on advertising materials. If it is too late already to change it again then let us forget what a name should mean and stop thinking about it altogether.

If Lar decided to call it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> then fine, be it.
We can live with that without the fuss of whether it was a good or BaD decision. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Whatsinaname!

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Exactly! Read my signature <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

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to quote some dude (shakespeare I think)

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet


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Exactly! Read my signature <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


Hi Lynn. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Yes, it is good to think in a positive way.
Goodness gracious!
We must be very happy that the name was not changed to *Divinity’s Behind*. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />
There is always a positive a side. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
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@DAD: Guess you have to change your shield from RR to BD <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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@DAD: Guess you have to change your shield from RR to BD <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


No, I shall not change my shield because it is in the memory of the murdered Rift Runner, but I might change my name to BAD from DAD. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

In fact, the name *Rift-Runner* still holds good for eggs and a weapon-armour-set. wink

The RR on the shield could stand for *Ranaar’s Runes* or *Runes & Rifts* or *Ranaar’s Rifts*.
I can also call it the Shield of Roland Regan. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" /> To Morbo.



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It's all still <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> in my eyes. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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It's all still <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> in my eyes. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Of course it is, but a bit more like Divinity++.


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It's all still <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> in my eyes. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Of course it is, but a bit more like Divinity++.



to me it will be <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" />#


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Divinity universe games will be great franchise!

they can come up with something similar to EA's 'need for speed' naming convention;
Divinity Hot Riftrunner
Divinity Hot Riftrunner 2
Divinity Viper Unlimited
Divinity Underground
Divinity Tricked Out Version

or maybe sim-style;

Divinity gone to Party
Divinityville
Divinity Rock City
Divinity Extreme
Divinity Online Dating
Divinity Galaxies
Divinity X2
Divinity Superheroes
Divinity MMORPG MUD


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Divinity universe games will be great franchise!
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I know alot of games already use Shadow in their names but that really doesn't matter. For a third title I wouldn't mind seeing something like "Shadows of Divinity".

Samething that they are doing now with the sizing of the title though. Of course Shadows would be smaller like Divine and Beyond are, then possibly make "of" even a little bit smaller. Then you stamp it with the nice big bold <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> name!

I can see it now and it's beautiful. *wipes a tear away* <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Then again, it's kind of hard to come up with a name for a game you know nothing about yet. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> looks good. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Of course when I talk about the sizing of the titles, I mean on the game box. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

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Maybe they should put a subtitle on it, like "Beyond Divinity: the RiftRunner Saga" or something. I'll probably be buying it on the first day it's out regardless of what they call it. (hmm... I wonder if they will be doing any pre-order goodies...)


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nice ideas <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/idea.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/stupid.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />
i can see it now! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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Divine Rifts I think.



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A thing came recently into my mind :

Take "beyond divinity" literally ...

(While considering that this is another "Universe" or "plane".)



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