Larian Studios Forums Beyond Divinity (English) General Your quest is set: To become a Riftrunner!

In the link under:

http://www.beyond-divinity.com/

There is this sentence.

Your quest is set: To become a Riftrunner!

Of course you mean:
Your quest is set: To undo a curse <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> !

Hi Lynn <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

I was more thinking about "to become a Beyonder" but that says nothing <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

LOL, Lynn <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

Watchagonnadooo!
Leave the runner to run the rifts or send him on a mission beyond divinity?
It is all very confusing now because we do not mind changing the name if you change the name, but changing the name without changing the name is kinda ... booohahahahaha. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />


PIF member. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

one good thing the name change has done is grabbing your attention & pull u back here in this forum.

welcome back, DAD. so what/who took up most of your time now?

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Science and swimming. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

I am investigating the spacetime tensors for enhancing the molecular models founded on QED.
Swimming is my favourite sport that keeps my weight under 110 kg. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

euhm...Jangut, it is his right to take a break instead of pushing up his post-count with irrelevant off-topic posts. And just to be honnest : he is right with his remark that the namechange brings some confusion. It is true that the namechange has caused some inconveniences with the original reason to call the game "riftrunner". Will Larian keep on calling the phenomenon the player has to go through "riftrunning" or will this term be banned from the game from now on?

Ouch Ouch Ouch.


1st, I don't think he was insulting him at all. He was asking him what he had been doing while he was gone. (correct me if I'm wrong).

2nd. WHo's been "with irrelevant off-topic posts"???? I thought that was my job, and is saying welcome back? what were you doing in the rbeak? offtopic, when he also had a reply to the thread?

when your post is more off topic, and "with irrelevant off-topic posts" "to push up his post count" then his is?

Even mine is making a point!

Go on with the post.

and, welcome back Dad.

well it says you want to go beoyond somthing, maybe a rift?

Beyound the Rifts? Beyouners go beyond them, to another demension, to new univseres? and you get un attached to your lovely knightly friend?

How about to become Beyondo

Step 1: chop of your head
Step 2: grow a goty
Step 3: dy your hair and beard white
Step 4: learn how to levitate your head and predict the future
Step 5: be anoying


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Morbo gets lews out of his stasis pod
Welcome to the world of tomorrow Lews

Welcome back <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

Morbo gets lews out of his stasis pod
Welcome to the world of tomorrow Lews

Welcome back
----
thank you, I was wondering how long I'd be stuck in that thing.

Wow, we do all have bubble cars!


oh good I'm already done! I hope?
what about
Step 6: become a rifting beyounder? and give everybody free bubble car gas? !

hunter, u've miscontrued my words. i was wondering (of course, now i know) what happened to DAD so i asked him. the dude as always was kind to let me know he's keeping himself busy & healthy, which is good.

in fact, i'm the one who's off-topic & pushing up my post counts. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />
so please blame me, not DAD.

héhé...well, I was blaming you but I probably misunderstood your words, I thought you made a negative remark towards DAD and I wanted to react to that but let's forget it. Anyway, I still wonder if the term "riftrunner" will be kept.

agreed. i'm ok here. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I don't see why they couldn't keep the term "riftrunner" - It's not in the title anymore, so what? Having a tagline "to become a riftrunner" just raises questions, not confusion, imo.

Indeed, I do agree about raising questions such as “why the confusion?”. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Just kidding. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

What I meant originally is that changing the title of the game is not a big deal.
Now the game is called *Beyond Divinity*

When you suddenly tell a very new potential customer, who never heard of the older title, that your quest is to become a Riftrunner and not even a Rift Runner, they could look up a dictionary and become certain that it is a spelling mistake about rifts and running.

Ok, so what is so fabulous about running across or through or along rifts?

Is that really a quest?

I humbly proposed the quest to be set for lifting a curse that can be found Beyond Divinity as a place, and happens Beyond Divinity (the game) in time, and might even demand powers Beyond That of a Divinity.

In other words, to become a rift-runner in a game called Riftrunner is not confusing but to become a rift runner in a game called Beyond Divinity begs for an explanation and raises questions, which causes confusion until the questions are answered.

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And what happened to "play the game and you'll find out"? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

People never knew what a Jedi was until they read a "Star Wars" book/saw the movie/played the game

In that case it makes no difference if:

Your quest is set: To become a Riftrunner!
Or
Your quest is set: To become a Glokershfanner! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

In both cases you have to find out, right?

So it is not a strong advertisement point.

How about:
Your quest is set: To become a Riftrunner and lift a curse Beyond Divinity!

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Ehm... I don't see the relation between argument A and conclusion B <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" />

That is OK, Kejero, we may agree to differ.
If you cannot see the relation then it is equally my responsibility for the bad representation of my logic.
I shall quit attempting to convince you and offer to leave it at that.

Of course if Larian Studios wish to write the box and the manual in runes they can do it, and if customers complain then they have to play the game to find out.

It is basically non of my business, as I am a mere fan of Divinity.
Thank you for your input my friend.

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And now I'm missing the relation between A, B and the comparison C, but by all means, let's leave it at that! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

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...Just don't consider going into the advertising business, ok? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shhh.gif" alt="" />

But since the game is now called "Beyond Divinity", it should have stronger connections to the previous game!
Not just reading about the "divinity" in books!

As I said, I like the title but the "Divinity" part means the Divinity Universe or the Divinity from the first game?

In my mind it is the Divinity Universe because the story is not a sequel of Divine Divinity.
Divinity also means the same concept about the gameplay, the features, etc.

AS if it is normal in games that you become what the title says. Riftrunner was an exception. I can't remember becoming a Morrowind, Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape:Torment, Diablo, Temple of Elemental Evil, Gothic, Ultima or whatever.
Why would it be confusing to anybody (Besides the visitors here) that you become a Riftrunner in a game named Beyond Divinity? How many RPG's, besides Divinity, are there where you become what the title says?

pac-man....? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

In Microsoft’s Age of Empires-extentions:
The Rise Of Rome you become a Roman,
The Age of Kings you become a King,
The Age of Conquerors you become a Conqueror.
However, besides being a Pac-man <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" /> (Hi Jurak)

One can become a warrior a thief a mage a supermodel or a marathon runner, but what is so common about being a Riftrunner?

My take was precisely that it makes no sense to an outsider.

The name Beyond Divinity is very interesting and stimulates curiosity about the fantasy that one should expect in a universe Beyond Divinity, even if one never played the first game.

I may borrow your expression and say:
Why would it be confusing to anybody that you become a Flaxzorbax in a game named Beyond Divinity?
Nothing at all except that being a Flaxzorbax is neither clear nor stimulating.
For us the PIF members, we can imagine from the name that it is of an imp or at least something impish.

In other words, we are the fans and if they call the game “Behind the Sward of lies lays cries and many whys”, and that each of us shall be set to become a senile bum, we shall still buy the game and enjoy playing it.

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However, that was never my point.

Try to imagine being a very new gamer looking for an RPG game on the net and you “stumbled” on the Larian Studios home page then went on reading.

Beyond Divinity ....hmm .... how interesting!
When you come to that part saying Riftrunner you shall ask what is a rift runner?
If it said that you shall become a lawyer, then oh ... ok ... (not interesting).
If it said that you shall become a cook, then oh ... ok ... (not interesting).
If it said that you shall become a wizard, then oh ... ok ... (maybe interesting).
If it said that you shall become a warrior, then oh ... ok ... (maybe interesting).
But Riftrunner has a meaning to us as fans only.

To the contrary of your expectations, if the name of the game was RiftRunner, then the case would be completely different. Becoming a battle-mage in a game named RiftRunner could have any meaning you wish including discovering that one of the names of the devil is RiftRunner or that it is the name of a king or that it is the title of a genitor on the rifts of hell. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

But being or becoming a rift-runner is basically meaningless to outsiders.

Think about it, please.

Matter of taste. An unclear and new term can indicate originality: I'm all in for that. Undo a curse? Sure, I understand what that means, except... I've undone a hundred curses before, why would I feel stimulated to undo another one? Being a Flaxzorbax isn't stimulating to you, but that's just your view. Maybe because you like to know everything before you can show interest? Who knows, who cares. Taste.
Moreover, "riftrunner" is a nice word, even without knowing what it means, you could speculate. Some people enjoy speculating. In that perspective, it's an even better word than Flaxzorbax, and even the latter could already raise interest. Not to you, obviously, but to others it could.

No point in asking people to think about a matter that's mainly dependent on taste. Unless you want to argue it's not a matter of taste. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

More the reason that makes <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> such a great name. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />



Yes, very interesting indeed. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />



Even the great boxart shows this. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

Don't mess with the Gremlins. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" />

And don't feed us after midnight. And mess with us. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Btw, where did you come from?? Someone been spilling water on me again? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" />

Well, there was a party the other night.

Things got kinda out of hand and someone spilt a beer on you. It just so happened to be a cheap american beer and that's the same as water.

Sorry about that. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Riftrunner has a meaning to anyone bothering to read about what has been published about it upto now. If the question is asked at the title or only after you've read the description of it makes no difference.
I'm not convinced that the name Riftrunner is more appealing to new fans than Beyond Divinity is. There is real power in a brand name. People will check the game out just because it has Divinity in the name. That is something you won't get when the game is named just 'Riftrunner'.

But you have to play the game to find out what it means to be... A RiftRunner! (dun dun daaaaaaah)

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Ok, ok, I give up. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Do I have to disclose the secret that we must run very fast using the rifts we find beyond divinity to dispel the magic that forges the Death knight to the avatar spiritually? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

I am quite aware that we shall be rift-running but that was not the point, arrrrrrrrrgh here I go again. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

I said I gave up.

Most of the gamers shall not even bother to read the name of the game if the picture on the box was nice and labelled RPG when recommended by the salesman/ saleswoman.

As for the PIF we are going to buy the game anyway.

So it really does not matter if the game’s name was Vidinity and that we are supposed to become Gif Gunners.

LOL.

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Very true. Sorry, I did miss the point.

Names do have a point of recognition though. One example is Another World (aka. Out Of This World), Flashback and Fade to Black. Until a year ago, I had no idea that these three games were the same series. I loved Another World but never touched the other two until I found them on an abandonware site.

We shall “run”

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" />

On the “rifts”

of CDs.

So make sure that your Compact Disk Drive includes the rift-runner Option. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Call each disk of the <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> game as rift #1, rift #2 and so on.
Then we become rift loaders and rift runners.

The first screen in the game should be in the world of divinity and a button to command the game to take you Beyond Divinity.

It is elementary my dear Watson. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

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Does that mean we will be running the "rifts" from this Butt Ugly thing!

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UglySaur

What is it? and who made it? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />