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Winterfox:
Precisely. I don't know what's with online discussions, but if anything remotely resembling an argument occurs, things almost always degenerate into psychoanalyzing ("Look, this person must have no life and suffer from inferiority/Oedipus/Lolita/whathaveyou complex" is a common one) and taking jabs at people's characters. Most people who do this aren't particularly knowledgeable where psychology is concerned, anyway.



Bah, the only thing I could "analyze", Winterfox, is the way how people decide to show themselves, that's a huge difference: the mask, the role, preferences how to communicate in this virtual world. It needs more to evaluate a person - far more than written words. Everything going deeper needs RL contact, needs observing if body language, mimic and constistency are congruent with the word. Posts are just flashes, nothing else. And what I can see, is only if an approach is consistent in posting, regardless of topic - if it is repetitive, forms a pattern - so? I can name this pattern, call it a cloak.

@Janggut => I agree with wholeheartedly with Luc, and in particular with these words:
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Luc:
The way you ask us to accept our differences, it should be the same way that you should ask Winterfox to accept everybody´s feelings. You did not. Your choice. Don´t ask me to make it mine. And if everyone here were like Winterfox, I would not be in this forum. Sorry. This is how I feel.



I try to accept differences in the way people here decide to show themselves - IF they show caring and respect => my preferences. Why? Because I think, the virtual world allows the time to think before I write - which is more difficult in RL, where words flow too easily, too quickly out of the mouth. I have seen approaches here I disliked highly, should I simply ignore them? Nope, I won't. If a person decides to trample like an elephant through the underwood, I wish to utter this as freely as the elephant himself. Why? Well, because this is me: accept my difference - your choice - you can decide not to: your choice again. The same as I make my choices or not.
Kiya

@Luc:
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Who said that I (I don´t know about the others but I am sure that Kiya does not do the same although I can not speak for her), comfort Al? Al is not my child. He is a man and I respect him. And he never ever asked my sympathy. It is something that he gained for what he is.


You spoke for me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> Thank you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kissyou.gif" alt="" />

@janggut again:
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otherwise, asians can be very very very harsh in telling truths. we don't pad it, we don't sugar-coat it

They can? Do they need to? No choice? So, hiding behind the coat of nationality and culture is sufficient then as justification? No self-reflection? No individuality? Just nationality and culture?

If this is the case => then I DON'T accept this case => my choice is this: I see the individual - never accepted nationality as a cloak, is a very old choice, since childhood on.

Last edited by kiya; 15/06/04 08:00 AM.