Larian Studios Forums Divine Divinity (English) Suggestions Suggestion for DD2

Although it's a bit late in the day for this kind of advice, I wanna have my say: Divine Divinity was a top class game! Don't try and do something totally new with the second one, in order to impress the gaming mags. The fans like it the way it is.

If you would like to do something toally new, call it something totally new, and don't mislead the loyal fans...


One more thing, as with all games, a full install should be a full install. No point doing a full install, if I'm going need "Disk1" in my drive, is there? I knackered my diablo 2 play disc up because of the hammering it got in my drive!

Welcome xAcesx!


Don't worry, the game has changed, but it is still the Divinity we love. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Divinity is the change. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Larian originally made L.E.D. Wars, a futuristic RTS. I think the name change was appropriate. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />


True, but it was there mostly for the copy protection. Admitidly, it was for the cut-scenes as well, though.

Hi HandEFood

I noticed some of the posts have gone into great detail about their suggestions. I thought I'd just mention a couple of things that they may have time to change.

What I meant by changing it was, finding out that I don't like DD2 because it's nothing like DD which I like (if that makes sense). DD is the game that Diablo 2 should have been (if I can say that in here <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" />) I wouldn't like to see DD2 go down this route.

And as for the copy pro' I don't have a problem with them checking my discs, providing they do it when I'm installing the game, and not playing it. The cut-scenes should also be on the HDD; drive space is not a problem nowadays.


Thanks for the welcome mate <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I'd rather prefer to leave it to the player whether he/she wants the "cut-scenes" on HD or not.

Hmmmm....its nice if u dont have to change discs or have it in all the time. I agree, inserting the disk for verification, but its a real drag to have to put it in all the time. Especially for games with more than one cd, like Baldur's Gate 2.

I agree, DD is definitely what Diablo 2 could and should have been, and there is no point in limiting, so let DD2 soar to the sky if need be <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Whatever the changes made, I am sure they will be good <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Elhan

I noticed some of the posts have gone into great detail about their suggestions. I thought I'd just mention a couple of things that they may have time to change.
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actually i like smaller sugggestions better.
IMHO.
it doesn't matter the size, its the quality!

I know. I was just in a cheeky mood yesterday. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Some changes are needed. Divine Divinity had a lot of gameplay flaws. But a lot of the basics will remain the same. Sequals also offer the chance to add all the options that they didn't have time for in the first one.


Cut scenes on the hard-drive should definately should be an option! As with copy protection, (this is my personal preference) it should be on game start. If you just have it on installation, what stops you from going over to a dozen mate's places, and installing it. Now there's twelve copies around for the price of one. And on that, what's stopping one of those twelve from doing a direct hard-disc to hard-disc copy? All you need is the regestry keys and you're set.

Not needing the disk is certainly a convenience, but in this unfortunate day and age, piracy is too prominent. Also, I generally only play one or two games at a time, so I rarely need to change discs (but that's me), and I keep the cases close at hand, just in case.

there should be some places in the game, maybe every 1/4 of the game. that you need to have the cd in, just to make sure.

people, it ain't going to kill you to put in the disk for that.

but then bauldors gate 2 was annoyind as hell i just did the whole thing and left in one disk.

easy.

I agree with most of whats said, and am looking forward to DD2 as much as anybody. But I don't see why the legitimate user should suffer degraded gameplay with disc checking. Make no mistake! Mechwarrior 4 was a pain in the backside for this in the zone. Besides, a copy protection to a pirate is little more than a distraction. So you see, the only people who are inconvenienced by this is the people who bought a proper copy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />

Is there not a DVD version being released? I never see any DVD games for the PC, and DVD drives have been out for years??

Whats the difference between a DVD version of the game and a CD version???

Just the number of required disks (ie 4 or 5 CDs vs 1 DVD).

DVD versions have five CDs of data on one DVD. Plus special features if there's room left. I'd like to see more too. It'll happen, it's not far away... So far I've only seen Baulders Gate, Riven, and Schiszm on DVD. More! More, I say!

ahh. thank you.

well, I don't have one. And I'm sure more people don't have them then do have them, they can't be sure.

And I have no problem with multiple disks actually.

I think DVD drives are becomming more and more popular. Sure there are a lot of people out there without them still. The games would be released on CD and DVD with the option to purchase either (or both for the obsessed). If more companies did it, more people would buy DVD drives. Then DVD could become the standard.

You're right! DVD should be the standard. For the sake of 20 odd quid everyone should have one. And may I point out, that's a about £10 cheaper than a full priced game <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

around here they're expensive. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

Unfortunately, this is a chicken and the egg kind of problem. Game companies/publishers do not want to go through the extra effort and expense of making CD and DVD versions, and not everybody has a DVD drive because there is no software that requires it.
DVD drives are not that much more expensive than CD drives, so you'd think at least the games with high system requirements could assume everyone in the target audience has a DVD drive. Perhaps new FPS and flight simulator games will start a trend. Until games hit 6 or 7 CDs, I don't think there will be a huge consumer demand for change.

That was going to be 1 of my suggestions for <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> , a DVD version. There was a DVD version of <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> released in the U.K., but not here <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" /> . There are very few games released on DVD. Much to my chegrin. I would love DVD copies. I am more than willing to pay extra for them if I had to. Finding them though is another story.

I tend to agree but...

One the one hand, you have companies writing for £370 graphics cards, making sure the games run with all the latest hardware. So why is a £30 DVD drive ignored??? Now come on...There must be more people with DVD drives than £370 worth of Graphics Card <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Beyonds Divinity is only one disc, last I heard. The 3D graphics reduced the size immensely. Aside from that, agreed!


Good point! Quality DVD drives in Australia are $120 (compared to $80 for games). Graphics cards are still several hundred dollars.

But why would someone buy a DVD drive (for this purpose) when a CD drive opperates at the same quality?